More talk of the next Saab 9-3

UPDATED – new translation of the original article, with thanks to Albert!

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There’s been mumblings here previously about the possibility of the next Saab 9-3 being built on the compact Delta platform instead of the next generation Epsilon II. See the following links for the background:

In short, those articles cover the possible decision to make the next Saab 9-3 on a compact vehicle platform, the same as will be used for the next Opel Astra. Currently, the Saab 9-3 is built on the larger Epsilon platform and it was assumed that it would be produced on the new Epsilon II platform eventually, in Russelsheim, Germany. The new Saab 9-5 will be produced on this platform starting in 2009.

In the article noted above as “the Saab response”, Saab’s PR manager in Sweden, Eric Geers, confirmed that they were looking at the compact Delta platform for the 9-3 as a means to reduce weight and better meet emission requirements. He pointed out that the vehicle architecture is just a modular basis for the vehicle and that vehicles of varying sizes and specifications can all be made from the one architecture.

That’s the history.

Today there’s been another article appear in Hendelsblatt, in Germany, that all but confirms that the Saab 9-3 will be built on this smaller architecture. The report states that the next Saab 9-3 will be built in Trollhattan rather than in Russelsheim.

The Trollhattan factory is soon to be re-tooled for the Delta platform in the near term and will be producing the current Epsilon 9-3 and the new Delta vehicles concurrently. It seems this will continue until the current 9-3 is phased out and the new version moves to Delta as well. New Epsilon II vehicles such as the Saab 9-5 will be produced in Russelsheim and the withdrawal of the Saab 9-3 from those plans will leave Russelsheim with a fair amount of excess capacity.

An updated translation from the original artical in German is as follows:

GM draws back production job from Opel.

The Opel-mother company General Motors (GM) has made a course correction with the production plans for Europe. The company plans apparently to give the production job for the next generation Saab 9-3 to the family plant of the Swedes instead of to Rüsselsheim.

FRANKFURT. According to information from business circles, the GM Board is expected to deal with the issue in June. With that the automobile manufacturere is giving the precedence to a badly filled aout Trollhättan Saab plant in preference to the Opel family plant in Rüsselsheim, that was originally planned to build the car.

To compensate the GM management around GM-Europe’s boss Carl-Peter Forster considers to give build jobs based on the Astra platform or the Chevrolet Epica to Rüsselsheim, it is said in the company.

A spokesman for GM Europe (GME) would not comment on the plans: “Our management cannot comment to the production site of the future Saab 9-3 at the moment.” The management although has just made clear commitments to order volumes to the works. To this the manufacturer will keep itself, said the spokesman.

In 2005, the Rüsselsheim factory promised that the future Saab middle class car would be made there. According to information from business circles the car company is planning now, however, to build the successor to the Saab 9-3, which is expected on the market in 2012, no longer on the old Vectra platform, but on the basis of a new compact car platform.

The works council chairman of the plant in Bochum, Rainer Einenkel, had already announced in the specialist magazine Auto, Motor und Sport “,that its location would apply to the model. Bochum is one of four future GM Astra plants in Europe and would be able to build the next Saab 9-3 also on this basis. But the U.S. company seems to prefer to fill the capacity at the plant in Trollhättan with the model, where in the future – according to business circles – the planned Saab 9-1 small car is expected to be built.

One year after the decision where to build the most important for GM model in Europe, the Astra compact car, the race for the manufacturing site for the current smallest model Saab is internally as good as decided. Open, on the other hand, is still with which cars GM management will ensure the production capacity and models in the Opel headquarters in Rüsselsheim.

Opel company works council chairman Klaus Franz said recently that he assumes that GM will keep to its assurances. “We have a signed contract with the management, capacity and the volume is definitely ensured,” he said. GM had promised the works council in an agreement in the autumn of last year to produce up to six GM models in Rüsselsheim by 2012. Currently in Rüsselsheim only the middle class models Vectra and Signum are produced, that will be replaced by the Insignia from November,

GM restructures further with this its production plans for its European operations after the reassignment of the important Astra production in the works Bochum, Gliwice and Ellesmere Port.
Only last week the company, that writes its books deep in the red on the home market, had announced investments in a total of 9 billion Euros in its core brand Opel until 2012 and announced a guarantee for the Astra plants, including Bochum until the year 2016.

Once again, I’m going to write to Saab Sweden and seek a response to what appears to be a measure of progress on this issue.

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The possible threat here is that the Saab 9-3 could be too close to the proposed Saab 9-1 idf they are both built on the same architecture. The move to Delta would definitely make a marked difference between the Saab 9-3 and Saab 9-5, however, something that hasn’t been around since 2002.

Eric Geers remained confident when I last heard from him (again, the link above) that the Saab 9-1 would see production. I guess the challenge here is to make sure the 9-1 and the 9-3 are remarkably different vehicles.

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Thanks very much to LML for the article

Kaz’s new motor

One of our esteemed colleagues, Kaz, has the good fortune to be able to order a new vehicle at a rediculously low price every few months. I’m not totally sure how it happens, but he’s always nice enough to share.

Here’s the latest member of the family, and there’s a few interesting points to note….

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The new motor arrived a few weeks ago. I’ve only now had a chance to take some pics.

Saab 9-3 I loved the last one so much that this one is virtually identical. The only difference is the interior. I have gone for the cream on black two tone leather, which looks FABULOUS!!

I’ve taken a few interior pics as well as some new exterior ones. I went back to Luton Hoo where I took pics for the POO competition, this time I had some daylight though.

There have been a few interesting changes since the last model for this MY08.5 model vehicle.

Saab 9-3 Convertible

The traction control switch is no longer on the dash. You now have to go into the settings on the SID to switch it on and off. The sat nav software is also updated.

The Bluetooth phone system appears to have improved too, one can actually have a conversation now when moving. Other than that, it drives exactly the same as the previous MY08 vehicle. The ride is a bit jiggly, but apart from that the comfort levels are exemplary. The gear change is a tad bit notchier than before, but it is only slight.

Saab 9-3 Convertible

The build quality has improved over pre MY08 cars, panel gaps are not as far apart inside and the car feels very solid.

As before, it has the 2.8V6 turbo engine in Aero guise, and is fully loaded. Business and convenience plus pack included. 18î alloy wheel upgrade. I LOVE this car!! The two tone interior really lifts it, and I advise everyone to tick that box!

For now, I hope you all enjoy my new toy!

Ciao for now

Kaz

Saab 9-3 Convertible

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Are Turbo X wheels coming?

A great sighting here from SaabRobz….

Whilst doing the weekly shopping at the local Trollhattan shopping center (I bought a shirt there for the 60th Anniversary dinner last year :-) ) he spotted this rather unique convertible. I’d say it’s owned by someone who works for Saab, or at least has some good contacts there, which is easier than you think in Trollhattan itself.

Apparently it’s an Aero spec BioPower convertible, and check out the silver-painted Turbo X wheels:

Turbo X wheels

I know there’s some divided opinion on the Turbo X wheels but I reckon they look absolutely brilliant. I’ve been wondering if they’ll be released for general sale and whilst this doesn’t mean that they will, it’s a positive sign. I’ve even considered them for the Viggen, should it be repaired. I’ll be writing to Saab shortly and making the appropriate enquiries.

And what about that silver looking top on the convertible? Is that standard or are they expanding the range once again?

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Saturday Night Snippets

I’ve read car reviews, and car comparisons, writeups from track days and diaries from economy runs. There’s all sorts of automotive content out there, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen a review that spends all of it’s time talking about a roof.

So, first question: what do YOU think of the sand roof on the black body?

Saab 9-3 Convertible

I’m a fan. This sand top would also look great on white, too, IMHO.

The review is supposed to be about the car, but really does spend the majority of it’s time on the roof: the color, the insulation, the opening and closing, the look. It’s rooforama! And it’s a good, quick, and recommended read.

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Kenneth is the name of the guy whose Turbo X SportCombi was featured here earlier today. I also showed a photo of the fantastic keyring that Saab are giving Turbo X owners when they take delivery of the car.

I’d just like to say that right at this moment, I’d like to be Kenneth.

He just dropped me a note to say that today he’s jumping into his Saab Turbo X and driving it to Trollhattan. Upon arriving there he’ll go to the Saab Museum and see all of Saab’s concept cars, which are being shown together in the one place for the first time.

That sounds like a pretty good day to me. It’s good to be Kenneth, eh?

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We haven’t seen nor heard much of the Saab Performance Team in recent times.

There’s an album on Flickr showing them a few days ago in Beijing and using 9-5s as well as 9-3s.

Saab Performance Team

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I hope you’re having a great weekend. My Carlton Football Club had a resounding win last night, so I’m all smiles.

I’m heading out this weekend to take some final photos of the WRX. I plan on handing it back this week as well as writing up a series of entries on what has been an interesting Rexperience.

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We had former Saab design chief Bjorn Envall drop by in comments a few days ago.

This morning his younger brother Anders joined us. Have a look at what he does in his spare time!!

Caravan Racing?!

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More on Saab’s US-edition yellow convertible

When I posted the press release about this car last night there was no access to the enlarged photo. That situation has changed now and you can click this photo to enlarge it. The main change from other versions of this same photo is with regard to the wheels and the reduction in aluminium trim on the front.

2008 Saab 9-3 Convertible Yellow Edition There’s been some more information come through about the car as well, via Autoblog. The Yellow edition will be limited to around 300 units for the US market. it will be available with the usual interior choices – parchment or black – and it will have three colors to choose from for the top – black, sand or blue.

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There’s been a lot of references in the automotive media about Saab’s yellow editions whilst they’re covering this car.

It’s an attractive segment of Saab’s history and I covered Saab’s relationship with the color over at The Spirit of Saab a little while ago.

I’ve really got to get some more stuff going on that site. So little time!

No Lynx, No Saffron – just Yellow for the US

Actually, it’s called Lynx Yellow further down but the headline is more mellow – It’s the Saab Convertible Yellow Edition – coming soon to a US Saab dealer near you!

No big pic available as I write this, but I’m loving those wheels….

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2008 Saab 9-3 Convertible Yellow Edition: Return of a Classic

DETROIT — While all Saab Convertibles are popular among car aficionados, owning one in yellow is an extra sunny experience. The first-ever yellow version of the Saab Convertible, issued in 1991, now enjoys collector car status, just as well-kept copies of the 1997 version are starting to get equally Saab Convertible Yellowsought after. Yet for those preferring the attractions of an all-new open Saab, the third time may be the charm. This spring, yellow is back in a limited edition that is unprecedented in the current generation Saab Convertible – without a doubt, a future classic.

The Saab Convertible Yellow Edition is based on the 2.0T version, its turbocharged four-cylinder combining spirited performance with excellent fuel economy. In addition to its Lynx Yellow paint and a long list of standard equipment, including XM radio and OnStar, this special edition features Aero look items such as 17-inch, five spoke alloy wheels and a subtle, yet effective rear spoiler while the premium audio system will be music to all ears. The 2008 Saab Convertible Yellow Edition has a MSRP of $42,830, including destination charges.

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Saab 9-5 and 9-3 future model news

Behold the second GM vehicle to be shown that will use the Epsilon II platform – The Buick Invicta concept.

This was revealed in Beijing overnight. Bear in mind that it’s a concept vehicle, but it is said to be pretty close to the final product. One would suggest that the rear roofline might be a tad higher and slightly less glassy on the road-going version.

This Buick is for China only at this stage, though I can well imagine some in the US saying why don’t you sell it here?

This comes hot on the heels of the official pictures of the Opel Insignia being let loose late last week. Again, the Insignia will be built on the new Epsilon II platform, the same architecture that will be used for the Saab 9-5 next year.

The big question is whether or not either of these can tell us anything about what’s coming in the next Saab 9-5. I guess they can hint at proportions and sizing. GM’s penchant for sharing parts (check out the similar grille openings on those two, for example) might suggest that the Saab could be similar in some areas, though hopefully the sheetmetal is completely different and the only common touches are hidden away.

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I heard from one Saab dealer over the weekend that the 9-5 could be due for a September 2009 release – and that’s here in Australia! If so, that would indicate a sooner-than expected arrival in other parts of the world.

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Albert has sent through a translation of an AutomobileWoche article, once again talking about the uncertainty surrounding the next Saab 9-3.

I’ve written about this before and it seems this story just won’t go away. I think some questions for Saab are in order here.

Exclusive: OPEL plant worries over utilization

The OPEL plant in Rüsselsheim worries over its utilization. The until 2018 contract (wherein GM assures the existence of the factory) has not been ratified. Among other things the GM management has not committed itself whether the next SAAB 9-3 will use the architecture of the Insignia.

Contrary to earlier statements of the works council, the utilization of the Opel factory in Rüsselsheim has not been secured yet. There is still no definite decision whether the Saab 9-3 will be built in Rüsselsheim, so say GM-sources to “Automobilwoche”.

With that it is just before the ratification of the “Standortsicherungsvertrages” uncertain whether the 6.000 employees can keep their jobs in the long run. “Some details are still open” a manager from GM Europe confirmed to the newspaper.

The 9-3, the best sold Saab-model, could be built on the Global Compact Architecture from GM. The Rüsselsheim plant is not laid out for this architecture. Because of this could not only the Saab entry-level model 9-1, but also the originally planned for Rüsselsheim 9-3, been built in the Swedish Trolhättan. With that, about 80.000 units would lack to the full utilization of the German mother-plant. Until now only the production of three variants of the Insignia, of which about 140.000 a year are planned, is sure. The maximum capacity in Rüsselsheim of 275.000 cars cannot be reached by that.

Long decision process.

Another battle point is the outsourcing-possibilities in areas that are not directly linked to car production, said a GM-employee. In the German facilities there are about a 1.000 jobs in danger by this. It is discussed for instance to outsource the security service ore the works fire brigade.

The long taking decision process around the 9-3 could also mean that the Swedish middle class limousine will come late to the market. Originally the production start was determined for 2010. “By now it will nearly be 2012” a GM employee said. The chairman of the works council, Klaus Franz, told already in November 2007 that the future of the plant was secure until 2018 but took this back later on. According to Franz the successors to the 9-3 and 9-5 as well as a crossover as a substitute for the wagons of the Swedes would be built alongside of the Insignia – all on the basis of the new Global Midsize Platform.

The 9-3 could well be headed for a 9-5-like timeframe, a decision that would surely hurt the brand in the next five years.

The way a convertible should be?

I got this email in my inbox with the title “Wanna make some US people angry?” which I thought was quite humorous and appropriate.

I don’t know if it will make anyone angry, but it certainly looks a bit more like the way some US customers would prefer to be able to buy their Saabs.

This little baby’s got the Hirsch 275hp upgrade, a set of 19-inch three spokes (I assume it’s also got the Hirsch suspension upgrade too). Inside it’s got the leather door trims and carbon leather dash.

And of course, it’s in the convertible color for 2008 – Arctic White.

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