Comments on: Lutz produces knife – offers to stick it in Saab’s back http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2009/01/lutz-produces-knife-offers-to-stick-it-in-saabs-back.html Saab 9-1, 9-3, 9-4x, 9-5, 9-7x News Thu, 10 Sep 2009 05:26:44 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: MJL http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2009/01/lutz-produces-knife-offers-to-stick-it-in-saabs-back.html#comment-61383 MJL Tue, 13 Jan 2009 11:15:23 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/?p=12162#comment-61383 SING IT SWADE!! You are SO RIGHT here. SING IT SWADE!! You are SO RIGHT here.

]]> By: Joe Lobo http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2009/01/lutz-produces-knife-offers-to-stick-it-in-saabs-back.html#comment-61313 Joe Lobo Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:42:58 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/?p=12162#comment-61313 Lutz's behaviour/attitude during hard times is not much better than a politician laying on its back being hammered by the press. Become defensive and blame it on whoever comes handy. It is obvious and as I stated over and over: GM did nothing with Saab where as Ford has lot more to show with what they did with Jaguar let alone Volvo. GM's ownership of Saab has been a total fiasco and they must be accountable. Blaming it on Saab alone is the biggest farce that proves why they are so much more in the poos than what Ford is. I hope that Saab gets on its feet with the loan form Sweden and another investor/owner. As for GM, they won't exist in the form we know them. There will be a broken series of companies and businesses where some interest will continue from them but not total ownership. They've proven to be incapable of running/handling an enterprise of the size they had. Lutz’s behaviour/attitude during hard times is not much better than a politician laying on its back being hammered by the press. Become defensive and blame it on whoever comes handy. It is obvious and as I stated over and over: GM did nothing with Saab where as Ford has lot more to show with what they did with Jaguar let alone Volvo. GM’s ownership of Saab has been a total fiasco and they must be accountable. Blaming it on Saab alone is the biggest farce that proves why they are so much more in the poos than what Ford is. I hope that Saab gets on its feet with the loan form Sweden and another investor/owner. As for GM, they won’t exist in the form we know them. There will be a broken series of companies and businesses where some interest will continue from them but not total ownership. They’ve proven to be incapable of running/handling an enterprise of the size they had.

]]> By: zippy http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2009/01/lutz-produces-knife-offers-to-stick-it-in-saabs-back.html#comment-61300 zippy Mon, 12 Jan 2009 21:23:47 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/?p=12162#comment-61300 Edags said "Lutz’s lack of accountability demonstrates exactly why GM is in the straits it is in." You hit the nail on the head there my friend. Its time for GM North America to cease existing and for Opel and Saab to become a European owned conglomerate akin to VW/Audi!!! Edags said “Lutz’s lack of accountability demonstrates exactly why GM is in the straits it is in.”

You hit the nail on the head there my friend. Its time for GM North America to cease existing and for Opel and Saab to become a European owned conglomerate akin to VW/Audi!!!

]]> By: Edags http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2009/01/lutz-produces-knife-offers-to-stick-it-in-saabs-back.html#comment-61290 Edags Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:27:40 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/?p=12162#comment-61290 Lutz's lack of accountability demonstrates exactly why GM is in the straits it is in. He could have admitted that they screwed up by only introducing ONE new (compromised) vehicle in all the years of ownership and how they DILUTED the brand with the 9-2 idiocy. It would have been smart of him to have said that even if he did not believe it since it should be his intention was to make the Saab opportunity look as good as it could for the next buyer. Just think of how the revenue would have increased with a nice line up of the following: 9-1 Created shortly after the 9X debuted in 2001 9-3 With a hatchback 3/5 door variant 9-5 New car delivered after 7 years instead 11 or 12 9-3X - A luxury mini sportute Not only would there have been a dramatic revenue increase for Saab but it would have been with a full line up of products that were different from anything you could find in any other GM brand's showroom and therefore been new business for GM. Lutz’s lack of accountability demonstrates exactly why GM is in the straits it is in. He could have admitted that they screwed up by only introducing ONE new (compromised) vehicle in all the years of ownership and how they DILUTED the brand with the 9-2 idiocy. It would have been smart of him to have said that even if he did not believe it since it should be his intention was to make the Saab opportunity look as good as it could for the next buyer.

Just think of how the revenue would have increased with a nice line up of the following:

9-1 Created shortly after the 9X debuted in 2001
9-3 With a hatchback 3/5 door variant
9-5 New car delivered after 7 years instead 11 or 12
9-3X – A luxury mini sportute

Not only would there have been a dramatic revenue increase for Saab but it would have been with a full line up of products that were different from anything you could find in any other GM brand’s showroom and therefore been new business for GM.

]]> By: JohnnyBravo http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2009/01/lutz-produces-knife-offers-to-stick-it-in-saabs-back.html#comment-61285 JohnnyBravo Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:59:08 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/?p=12162#comment-61285 Typical US managers..... No clue what is happening outside their country. Which is fine, as long as they stick doing buisness there... Ask me how I know - I work for an US company. Bloody Idiots. They want to sell Cadillac in Europe? They want to sell their crappy, fuel consuming, ugly trucks and Cadillacs to the people in Germany, France, Italy, Sweden? In countries which invented the automobile and built high-class transportation long before a guy called Henry F. started to build a mass product called tin lizzy???? Com' on. Just a little more common sense, Bob Lutz! Really, really sad.... Typical US managers….. No clue what is happening outside their country. Which is fine, as long as they stick doing buisness there… Ask me how I know – I work for an US company.

Bloody Idiots. They want to sell Cadillac in Europe? They want to sell their crappy, fuel consuming, ugly trucks and Cadillacs to the people in Germany, France, Italy, Sweden? In countries which invented the automobile and built high-class transportation long before a guy called Henry F. started to build a mass product called tin lizzy???? Com’ on. Just a little more common sense, Bob Lutz!

Really, really sad….

]]> By: max http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2009/01/lutz-produces-knife-offers-to-stick-it-in-saabs-back.html#comment-61282 max Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:51:05 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/?p=12162#comment-61282 Klutz is a clown in the GM Freak Show. Time to move on "Old Boy" Time to move on. We can all see what you have accomplished.....Jack S.it Klutz is a clown in the GM Freak Show. Time to move on “Old Boy” Time to move on. We can all see what you have accomplished…..Jack S.it

]]> By: rian http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2009/01/lutz-produces-knife-offers-to-stick-it-in-saabs-back.html#comment-61256 rian Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:50:44 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/?p=12162#comment-61256 FREE TROLLHATTAN!!! FREE TROLLHATTAN!!!

]]> By: zippy http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2009/01/lutz-produces-knife-offers-to-stick-it-in-saabs-back.html#comment-61252 zippy Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:13:01 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/?p=12162#comment-61252 Lutz, you are a bl**dy idiot! As has been pointed out here you have to invest money in a brand not use the technology developed by Saab in cr*ppy Chevys. It is your sheer incompetence that has got all of GM in this mess anyway. Lets face it Bob - GM builds lousy cars in North America and the fact that Asian cars are eating your market share is evidence of that, only you idiots that run GM are too stupid to see it and now the house is crumbling. You bought Saab to add a bit of class to GM image and what did you do. Run it into the ground and try to sell Cadillacs in Europe - a continent that still sees Cadillac as those awful pink things that drive like a yacht with fins on them. EUROPEANS HATE CADILLACS YOU DOOFUS!!! Grumpy made a good point re the BLS but I am mad right now so I am gonna stop before Swade bans me. All I can say is one thing...if Saab dies then I hope GM dies with it then, Bob, your lifelong achievment would be the death of the US car industry. RANT OVER!! :( Lutz, you are a bl**dy idiot!

As has been pointed out here you have to invest money in a brand not use the technology developed by Saab in cr*ppy Chevys. It is your sheer incompetence that has got all of GM in this mess anyway. Lets face it Bob – GM builds lousy cars in North America and the fact that Asian cars are eating your market share is evidence of that, only you idiots that run GM are too stupid to see it and now the house is crumbling.

You bought Saab to add a bit of class to GM image and what did you do. Run it into the ground and try to sell Cadillacs in Europe – a continent that still sees Cadillac as those awful pink things that drive like a yacht with fins on them. EUROPEANS HATE CADILLACS YOU DOOFUS!!!

Grumpy made a good point re the BLS but I am mad right now so I am gonna stop before Swade bans me.

All I can say is one thing…if Saab dies then I hope GM dies with it then, Bob, your lifelong achievment would be the death of the US car industry.

RANT OVER!!

:(

]]> By: Grumpy http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2009/01/lutz-produces-knife-offers-to-stick-it-in-saabs-back.html#comment-61248 Grumpy Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:42:49 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/?p=12162#comment-61248 Just to add a little salt, Saab in Sweden didn't receive a cent of the US profits when the market was still running well. All aftersales earnings goes straight into GME. And they were forced to pay for the BLS BS development with Saab money. Is that the picture of a caring parent I ask. Show one car company that can show a profit without counting profits the biggest market nor the parts sales. Pffff Just to add a little salt, Saab in Sweden didn’t receive a cent of the US profits when the market was still running well. All aftersales earnings goes straight into GME. And they were forced to pay for the BLS BS development with Saab money. Is that the picture of a caring parent I ask. Show one car company that can show a profit without counting profits the biggest market nor the parts sales. Pffff

]]> By: Markac http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2009/01/lutz-produces-knife-offers-to-stick-it-in-saabs-back.html#comment-61247 Markac Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:28:50 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/?p=12162#comment-61247 Lutz. You have to spend money to make money. GM's continued half hearted/half arsed support of Saab never allowed it to produce the goods. If the money that had been wasted on Cadillac's fruitless overseas ventures had gone into giving Saab a complete model range, then maybe you would have gotten the desired results. You don't deserve Saab and Saab sure as hell doesn't deserve you or any of your cronies. Free Saab from these morons! Lutz. You have to spend money to make money. GM’s continued half hearted/half arsed support of Saab never allowed it to produce the goods. If the money that had been wasted on Cadillac’s fruitless overseas ventures had gone into giving Saab a complete model range, then maybe you would have gotten the desired results. You don’t deserve Saab and Saab sure as hell doesn’t deserve you or any of your cronies. Free Saab from these morons!

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