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		<title>By: bornfromjets03</title>
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		<dc:creator>bornfromjets03</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 05:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Swade I really hope you&#039;re right about the whole &quot;full fleet within no time&quot; thing.

but even having a full fleet wouldn&#039;t feel right without the beloved griffin!!

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;The full fleet thing was a tongue in cheek reflection on Farago&#039;s death watch series, which is into its 200th-and-something episode.  I&#039;m sure he only meant it to go for around 50 - SW&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Swade I really hope you&#8217;re right about the whole &#8220;full fleet within no time&#8221; thing.</p>
<p>but even having a full fleet wouldn&#8217;t feel right without the beloved griffin!!</p>
<p><strong><em>The full fleet thing was a tongue in cheek reflection on Farago&#8217;s death watch series, which is into its 200th-and-something episode.  I&#8217;m sure he only meant it to go for around 50 &#8211; SW</em></strong></p>
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		<title>By: mo</title>
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		<dc:creator>mo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 03:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>news is getting worse, now we might lose the griffin logo, literally one of the best logo on the market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>news is getting worse, now we might lose the griffin logo, literally one of the best logo on the market.</p>
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		<title>By: mike c</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike c</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 02:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Markac: Thank you for the feed back, it does help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Markac: Thank you for the feed back, it does help.</p>
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		<title>By: Ubermich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ubermich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 02:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I shall hereby prove that GM will not sell or close Saab:

Ford has done very little over the past several years that can be compared directly to what GM has done.
In fact, almost everything GM has done, Ford has done the opposite.

Therefor:
IF Ford is putting Volvo up for bid
Then GM will keep Saab.
However, since Ford allowed Volvo to build and sell new product
Then GM will not allow Saab to build or sell new product.
Therefor, GM will keep Saab, but not allow them new product.

This is great for mechanics, who will only have to know two cars for the next several years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I shall hereby prove that GM will not sell or close Saab:</p>
<p>Ford has done very little over the past several years that can be compared directly to what GM has done.<br />
In fact, almost everything GM has done, Ford has done the opposite.</p>
<p>Therefor:<br />
IF Ford is putting Volvo up for bid<br />
Then GM will keep Saab.<br />
However, since Ford allowed Volvo to build and sell new product<br />
Then GM will not allow Saab to build or sell new product.<br />
Therefor, GM will keep Saab, but not allow them new product.</p>
<p>This is great for mechanics, who will only have to know two cars for the next several years.</p>
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		<title>By: zippy</title>
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		<dc:creator>zippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 01:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont care to think about what may happen in a few days time! :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont care to think about what may happen in a few days time! <img src='http://www.trollhattansaab.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Markac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Markac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 01:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mike C:  There&#039;s nothing wrong with a good independant mechanic.  I use a Saab specialist who did his original training with a Saab dealer and worked for them for quite a few years before starting his own business.  He drives a 9-5 and owns several other Saabs including Saab loan cars.  He&#039;s quite a bit cheaper than a dealer too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mike C:  There&#8217;s nothing wrong with a good independant mechanic.  I use a Saab specialist who did his original training with a Saab dealer and worked for them for quite a few years before starting his own business.  He drives a 9-5 and owns several other Saabs including Saab loan cars.  He&#8217;s quite a bit cheaper than a dealer too.</p>
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		<title>By: mike c</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike c</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 01:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am concerned. Only have 2 Saab dealers left in my area. If Saab is sold, will these dealers still retain Saab in their fold? Who is going to service and repair the car? If Saab is closed, that&#039;s it.
I do have a few independent mechanic&#039;s who claim they know Saabs, I am not sure. I have had great service and luck with Saab Technicians. Do I get out now, go to Audi or BMW? or do I just play the wait and see game? I need my Saab to get work (like every one else)  Can&#039;t play games with my car. My current Saab dealer does NOT OFFER LOANERS. Pain the the ass for me, but I deal with it because the people are good. With my wife&#039;s XC-90 I get a NEW CAR as a loaner every time.
I never had to consider getting out of a car that I love. Wow!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am concerned. Only have 2 Saab dealers left in my area. If Saab is sold, will these dealers still retain Saab in their fold? Who is going to service and repair the car? If Saab is closed, that&#8217;s it.<br />
I do have a few independent mechanic&#8217;s who claim they know Saabs, I am not sure. I have had great service and luck with Saab Technicians. Do I get out now, go to Audi or BMW? or do I just play the wait and see game? I need my Saab to get work (like every one else)  Can&#8217;t play games with my car. My current Saab dealer does NOT OFFER LOANERS. Pain the the ass for me, but I deal with it because the people are good. With my wife&#8217;s XC-90 I get a NEW CAR as a loaner every time.<br />
I never had to consider getting out of a car that I love. Wow!</p>
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		<title>By: Markac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Markac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 01:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Highway Star: The Twin Prop could be good, but Saab USA could hardly use that with &quot;&lt;strong&gt;Born from Jets&quot;!&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Highway Star: The Twin Prop could be good, but Saab USA could hardly use that with &#8220;<strong>Born from Jets&#8221;!</strong></p>
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		<title>By: SaabKen</title>
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		<dc:creator>SaabKen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 00:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Swade, I just read your comments re: branding and griffin badge, and then it hit me that the badge only appears ONCE on each of the 9-XBH and 9-4X:

http://autoshow.roadfly.com/wp-content/gallery/saab-9-x-biohybrid-concept/saab-9-x-biohybrid.jpg

http://caraphoto.caradisiac.com/s/a/salon-geneve-2008/9-4X-BIO-POWER-CONCEPT/HR_74618.jpg

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_Ka3xwJlk2wI/R5fZk6tllmI/AAAAAAAAFtU/D7hazNb45ZU/DSC02034.JPG

http://caraphoto.caradisiac.com/s/a/salon-geneve-2008/9-4X-BIO-POWER-CONCEPT/HR_74617.jpg

http://www.automotorsport.se/bigpix/2008/Saab_9-X_BioHybride_show_rear1.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Swade, I just read your comments re: branding and griffin badge, and then it hit me that the badge only appears ONCE on each of the 9-XBH and 9-4X:</p>
<p><a href="http://autoshow.roadfly.com/wp-content/gallery/saab-9-x-biohybrid-concept/saab-9-x-biohybrid.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://autoshow.roadfly.com/wp-content/gallery/saab-9-x-biohybrid-concept/saab-9-x-biohybrid.jpg</a></p>
<p><a href="http://caraphoto.caradisiac.com/s/a/salon-geneve-2008/9-4X-BIO-POWER-CONCEPT/HR_74618.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://caraphoto.caradisiac.com/s/a/salon-geneve-2008/9-4X-BIO-POWER-CONCEPT/HR_74618.jpg</a></p>
<p><a href="http://lh4.ggpht.com/_Ka3xwJlk2wI/R5fZk6tllmI/AAAAAAAAFtU/D7hazNb45ZU/DSC02034.JPG" rel="nofollow">http://lh4.ggpht.com/_Ka3xwJlk2wI/R5fZk6tllmI/AAAAAAAAFtU/D7hazNb45ZU/DSC02034.JPG</a></p>
<p><a href="http://caraphoto.caradisiac.com/s/a/salon-geneve-2008/9-4X-BIO-POWER-CONCEPT/HR_74617.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://caraphoto.caradisiac.com/s/a/salon-geneve-2008/9-4X-BIO-POWER-CONCEPT/HR_74617.jpg</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.automotorsport.se/bigpix/2008/Saab_9-X_BioHybride_show_rear1.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.automotorsport.se/bigpix/2008/Saab_9-X_BioHybride_show_rear1.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: Highway Star</title>
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		<dc:creator>Highway Star</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 00:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;To add insult to injury, it seems that Saab may loose it’s Griffin logo too. Ryan at Saab History has discovered that GM only had the rights to the Griffin for twenty years which is up after next year.
Seems that Scania were never happy with Saab using it’s logo. I wonder how that relates to Saab Aerospace? They are still using the griffin too.&lt;/em&gt;

Well crap. The Griffin is, IMO, the coolest logo in all of automotive.

So, how about reviving the old twin-prop airplane logo, modernized with the current &#039;SAAB&#039; wordmark?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>To add insult to injury, it seems that Saab may loose it’s Griffin logo too. Ryan at Saab History has discovered that GM only had the rights to the Griffin for twenty years which is up after next year.<br />
Seems that Scania were never happy with Saab using it’s logo. I wonder how that relates to Saab Aerospace? They are still using the griffin too.</em></p>
<p>Well crap. The Griffin is, IMO, the coolest logo in all of automotive.</p>
<p>So, how about reviving the old twin-prop airplane logo, modernized with the current &#8216;SAAB&#8217; wordmark?</p>
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