Comments on: Hey Lapham! http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/12/hey-lapham.html Saab 9-1, 9-3, 9-4x, 9-5, 9-7x News Thu, 11 Dec 2008 06:34:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: 1985 Gripen http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/12/hey-lapham.html#comment-57560 1985 Gripen Tue, 02 Dec 2008 04:50:42 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/?p=10735#comment-57560 Another thing he got wrong: the 9-7X was not an Envoy sibling as the author suggests. It was a Trailblazer sibling. Small point, but a point nonetheless. And GM owned 20% of Subaru at the time of the 9-2X. Can that be called an "alliance"? I guess so, remotely. I still can't believe that a so-called "expert" can't tell the difference between "badge engineering" and "platform sharing" in 2008. Why isn't this gent torn-apart by peers for being ignorant of the difference? 9-2X and 9-7X? Badge engineering. Epsilon 9-3 and 9-5? Platform sharing. There, a non-"expert" knows the difference. Et tu, Mr. Lapham? bornfromjets03: while I appreciate your enthusiasm, the 9-2X was a rebadged WRX, not an STi. Still the nicest-looking WRX I've ever seen. I really wish that the Saab-Subaru partnership could have worked better. Take the best of what both companies have to offer and merge them in one vehicle. Don't just take a Subaru design and "Saab-ize" it like they were doing with the 9-6X. It's my feeling that the failure was that of whomever was put in charge of these two companies working together. Another thing he got wrong: the 9-7X was not an Envoy sibling as the author suggests. It was a Trailblazer sibling. Small point, but a point nonetheless.

And GM owned 20% of Subaru at the time of the 9-2X. Can that be called an “alliance”? I guess so, remotely.

I still can’t believe that a so-called “expert” can’t tell the difference between “badge engineering” and “platform sharing” in 2008. Why isn’t this gent torn-apart by peers for being ignorant of the difference? 9-2X and 9-7X? Badge engineering. Epsilon 9-3 and 9-5? Platform sharing. There, a non-”expert” knows the difference. Et tu, Mr. Lapham?

bornfromjets03: while I appreciate your enthusiasm, the 9-2X was a rebadged WRX, not an STi. Still the nicest-looking WRX I’ve ever seen. I really wish that the Saab-Subaru partnership could have worked better. Take the best of what both companies have to offer and merge them in one vehicle. Don’t just take a Subaru design and “Saab-ize” it like they were doing with the 9-6X. It’s my feeling that the failure was that of whomever was put in charge of these two companies working together.

]]> By: bornfromjets03 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/12/hey-lapham.html#comment-57511 bornfromjets03 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:15:03 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/?p=10735#comment-57511 wow. THIS is the reason that no one realizes how GREAT SAABS truely are!! they just see a lack of funding as an epic fail and think it's crap. When really GM just needs to realize what a GEM of a company Saab is and that they need to push it to its full potential!! even though the 9-2x may be considered a failure in most peoples eyes.... it's still regarded as the best STI ever built.... that has to count for something right?? wow. THIS is the reason that no one realizes how GREAT SAABS truely are!! they just see a lack of funding as an epic fail and think it’s crap. When really GM just needs to realize what a GEM of a company Saab is and that they need to push it to its full potential!!

even though the 9-2x may be considered a failure in most peoples eyes…. it’s still regarded as the best STI ever built…. that has to count for something right??

]]> By: Bernard http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/12/hey-lapham.html#comment-57463 Bernard Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:46:20 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/?p=10735#comment-57463 Obviously he wrote the article without thinking things through or even knowing the topic. Shutting-down Saab is just a diversion from GM's real problems. How many US jobs would be preserved by shutting-down Saab? Zero at best, but most likely jobs would be lost. How much cashflow would GM protect by shutting-down Saab? A few hour's worth? A full day's worth? Again, it's probably a negative number. How many extra sales would GM get in its other brands if they shut-down Saab? Zero at best. Obviously he wrote the article without thinking things through or even knowing the topic.

Shutting-down Saab is just a diversion from GM’s real problems.

How many US jobs would be preserved by shutting-down Saab? Zero at best, but most likely jobs would be lost.

How much cashflow would GM protect by shutting-down Saab? A few hour’s worth? A full day’s worth? Again, it’s probably a negative number.

How many extra sales would GM get in its other brands if they shut-down Saab? Zero at best.

]]> By: eggsngrits http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/12/hey-lapham.html#comment-57457 eggsngrits Mon, 01 Dec 2008 13:40:30 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/?p=10735#comment-57457 (Yawn.) Next!!! (Yawn.) Next!!!

]]> By: David Blumberg http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/12/hey-lapham.html#comment-57456 David Blumberg Mon, 01 Dec 2008 13:23:09 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/?p=10735#comment-57456 Sigh... It's guys like this, so called knowledgeables, insiders, experts, that cause so much damage to Saab with their influential ignorance. Those that don't know better would now take it for granted that the 9-5 and 9-3 are in fact Opels with a different badge. Just like the Chevrolet Matiz used to be a Daewoo... That's what they'll think and what will keep them away from a truly unique brand. Sigh… It’s guys like this, so called knowledgeables, insiders, experts, that cause so much damage to Saab with their influential ignorance. Those that don’t know better would now take it for granted that the 9-5 and 9-3 are in fact Opels with a different badge. Just like the Chevrolet Matiz used to be a Daewoo… That’s what they’ll think and what will keep them away from a truly unique brand.

]]> By: JV http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/12/hey-lapham.html#comment-57455 JV Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:20:54 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/?p=10735#comment-57455 I wonder how Lapham would translate the following "Den som alltid vet bäst lär sig aldrig något"! I wonder how Lapham would translate the following “Den som alltid vet bäst lär sig aldrig något”!

]]> By: Eduard http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/12/hey-lapham.html#comment-57453 Eduard Mon, 01 Dec 2008 10:59:03 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/?p=10735#comment-57453 He is saying some chronologi events, but the thing is........who is responsible of that mess?? I thing its clear. I put a comment in autonews.com regards He is saying some chronologi events, but the thing is……..who is responsible of that mess?? I thing its clear.

I put a comment in autonews.com

regards

]]> By: Sensonic http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/12/hey-lapham.html#comment-57452 Sensonic Mon, 01 Dec 2008 10:35:39 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/?p=10735#comment-57452 CTM wrote: "Sensonic, They sold 4 BLS in Sweden during November. That’s down from 6 one year ago…" Wow. And now they're even trying to launch the wagon model of that car... I saw it in Trollhättan during Saab Festival 2007. CTM wrote:

“Sensonic,

They sold 4 BLS in Sweden during November. That’s down from 6 one year ago…”

Wow. And now they’re even trying to launch the wagon model of that car…
I saw it in Trollhättan during Saab Festival 2007.

]]> By: Joe Lobo http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/12/hey-lapham.html#comment-57448 Joe Lobo Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:35:09 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/?p=10735#comment-57448 Has this Lapham character seen what Ford did with Volvo too simply to check weather there is some validity in his comments and views ??? Obviously he is too much of a Detroit dinosaur that has the same views and thoughts as the rest of the operators of that car industry that thought everything will be there forever. Well, if you keep on doing the same thing you'll get the same results. So, you go back to your Detroit gang and see what changes you will make in your own backyard and give Saab what it deserved from the minute it was bought as GM has a lot to answer for the current status. Has this Lapham character seen what Ford did with Volvo too simply to check weather there is some validity in his comments and views ??? Obviously he is too much of a Detroit dinosaur that has the same views and thoughts as the rest of the operators of that car industry that thought everything will be there forever. Well, if you keep on doing the same thing you’ll get the same results. So, you go back to your Detroit gang and see what changes you will make in your own backyard and give Saab what it deserved from the minute it was bought as GM has a lot to answer for the current status.

]]> By: Markac http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/12/hey-lapham.html#comment-57445 Markac Mon, 01 Dec 2008 08:58:57 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/?p=10735#comment-57445 The poor Australian to US dollar ratio should do wonders for the Cadillac CTS launch in Australia. Perhaps now it won't even happen? The poor Australian to US dollar ratio should do wonders for the Cadillac CTS launch in Australia. Perhaps now it won’t even happen?

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