Comments on: Business Week: Saab 9-5 shelved http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/12/business-week-saab-9-5-shelved.html Saab 9-1, 9-3, 9-4x, 9-5, 9-7x News Thu, 11 Dec 2008 06:34:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: jchan2 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/12/business-week-saab-9-5-shelved.html#comment-57656 jchan2 Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:16:16 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/?p=10804#comment-57656 Hold up. Saab without a 9-5 or all of the R&D facilities isn't worth anything- it's just another brand, and it's definitely a buyer's market for automakers out there. The 9-3 alone is not enough to sustain the entire brand. Any automaker worth their salt willing to buy Saab will be demanding the R&D staff/facilities, the factory in Trollhattan, and a GM contract pledging to build a 9-5 and 9-4X until the transition is complete. BMW did the same thing with Land Rover in its transition to Ford; they provided the Range Rover's engines for a few years before Ford could find one of its own to drop in there. Hold up.
Saab without a 9-5 or all of the R&D facilities isn’t worth anything- it’s just another brand, and it’s definitely a buyer’s market for automakers out there. The 9-3 alone is not enough to sustain the entire brand.

Any automaker worth their salt willing to buy Saab will be demanding the R&D staff/facilities, the factory in Trollhattan, and a GM contract pledging to build a 9-5 and 9-4X until the transition is complete.

BMW did the same thing with Land Rover in its transition to Ford; they provided the Range Rover’s engines for a few years before Ford could find one of its own to drop in there.

]]> By: Pekko http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/12/business-week-saab-9-5-shelved.html#comment-57642 Pekko Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:10:51 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/?p=10804#comment-57642 Some rumour still alive that new 9-5 will be shown in Geneva -09. GM europe has confirmed that for some finnish dealer, but lets see... Find that information from forum of finnish saabclub. Some rumour still alive that new 9-5 will be shown in Geneva -09. GM europe has confirmed that for some finnish dealer, but lets see… Find that information from forum of finnish saabclub.

]]> By: Bernard http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/12/business-week-saab-9-5-shelved.html#comment-57616 Bernard Tue, 02 Dec 2008 15:01:57 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/?p=10804#comment-57616 Journalists are spreading rumours just like kids in a schoolyard. Journo 1: "the 9-5 will appear Q4 2009 or Q1 2010." Journo 2: "the 9-5's been delayed!" Journo 3: "the 9-5's been shelved!" and so on... Lots of brands sell cars made by other companies. Even Saab has sold cars made by Lancia, Chevrolet, Subaru, Valmet and Magna Steyr. Journalists are spreading rumours just like kids in a schoolyard. Journo 1: “the 9-5 will appear Q4 2009 or Q1 2010.” Journo 2: “the 9-5′s been delayed!” Journo 3: “the 9-5′s been shelved!” and so on…

Lots of brands sell cars made by other companies. Even Saab has sold cars made by Lancia, Chevrolet, Subaru, Valmet and Magna Steyr.

]]> By: Rune (the other one) http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/12/business-week-saab-9-5-shelved.html#comment-57615 Rune (the other one) Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:56:12 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/?p=10804#comment-57615 It ain't over until the fat lady sings. :) Can't they tool up in Trollhättan to build the 9-5 where it should have been built in the first place? It ain’t over until the fat lady sings. :)

Can’t they tool up in Trollhättan to build the 9-5 where it should have been built in the first place?

]]> By: zippy http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/12/business-week-saab-9-5-shelved.html#comment-57608 zippy Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:05:48 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/?p=10804#comment-57608 I was tossing and turning in bed last night thinking with all this news Saab sales are toast. Who is gonna buy a car from a manufacturer whose future in North America, and the world, is in doubt? As much as I love my car I am beginning to wonder how I am going to get parts if something goes wrong. Now I visit my favorite site on the 'net to read that the new 9-5 is shelved. Lets be realistic ladies and gentleman - Saab is done! :( I was tossing and turning in bed last night thinking with all this news Saab sales are toast. Who is gonna buy a car from a manufacturer whose future in North America, and the world, is in doubt? As much as I love my car I am beginning to wonder how I am going to get parts if something goes wrong. Now I visit my favorite site on the ‘net to read that the new 9-5 is shelved.

Lets be realistic ladies and gentleman – Saab is done! :(

]]> By: albert http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/12/business-week-saab-9-5-shelved.html#comment-57597 albert Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:36:48 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/?p=10804#comment-57597 The only thing this article shows is that the common American journalist has gone completely mad. They all tumble over each other to make u these kind of stories, which probably bear no truth at all. But there are so many stories made up that they are starting to believe them theirselves. The motto: "if there are so many stories like this, there must be some truth in it!" Remembers me of the story my great-grandfather told me when I was little. Living at the seaside he told me the story of a guy who started to tell people that a ship had stranded. Some believed him and started walking to the beach. In the end there were so many going to the beach that he started asking why they were going to the beach. "because a ship has run ashore!" Then he went also to have a look..... The bottom line: do not believe everything they tell you. The only thing this article shows is that the common American journalist has gone completely mad.
They all tumble over each other to make u these kind of stories, which probably bear no truth at all. But there are so many stories made up that they are starting to believe them theirselves. The motto: “if there are so many stories like this, there must be some truth in it!”
Remembers me of the story my great-grandfather told me when I was little. Living at the seaside he told me the story of a guy who started to tell people that a ship had stranded. Some believed him and started walking to the beach. In the end there were so many going to the beach that he started asking why they were going to the beach. “because a ship has run ashore!” Then he went also to have a look…..
The bottom line: do not believe everything they tell you.

]]> By: van god los http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/12/business-week-saab-9-5-shelved.html#comment-57586 van god los Tue, 02 Dec 2008 09:39:01 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/?p=10804#comment-57586 The thing is that once they start production of the 9-5 in Russelsheim, it will be harder to sell Saab. Now a buyer can buy Saab with the plans of the 9-5 and probably the necasary production equipment and put it's own staff on the job. As every car manufacturer has too much staff for the moment, it would be silly to buy a brand but give employment to an other car manufacturor ... Maybe they're just waiting to present the 9-5 untill they have a buyer for Saab. The thing is that once they start production of the 9-5 in Russelsheim, it will be harder to sell Saab. Now a buyer can buy Saab with the plans of the 9-5 and probably the necasary production equipment and put it’s own staff on the job.

As every car manufacturer has too much staff for the moment, it would be silly to buy a brand but give employment to an other car manufacturor …

Maybe they’re just waiting to present the 9-5 untill they have a buyer for Saab.

]]> By: Tompa http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/12/business-week-saab-9-5-shelved.html#comment-57585 Tompa Tue, 02 Dec 2008 09:38:07 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/?p=10804#comment-57585 Hold on everybody.. Lets just wait and see. Hold on everybody.. Lets just wait and see.

]]> By: Daniel http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/12/business-week-saab-9-5-shelved.html#comment-57582 Daniel Tue, 02 Dec 2008 08:50:06 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/?p=10804#comment-57582 Jan Åke Jonsson said a few days ago that the 9-5 will be released next year ? Jan Åke Jonsson said a few days ago that the 9-5 will be released next year ?

]]> By: Nigel http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/12/business-week-saab-9-5-shelved.html#comment-57581 Nigel Tue, 02 Dec 2008 08:30:03 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/?p=10804#comment-57581 If the 9-5 is further delayed or postponed say goodbye to SAAB. The 9-3 is not good enough to support the company on its own and there are lots of people, me included, that are waiting for the 9-5. If I dont hear an official announcement within the next 3 months I will buy elsewhere, probably an Audi or BMW as both have excellent diesel engines which offer performance and ecomony. I dont want to, but I am tired of waiting. If the 9-5 is further delayed or postponed say goodbye to SAAB. The 9-3 is not good enough to support the company on its own and there are lots of people, me included, that are waiting for the 9-5.

If I dont hear an official announcement within the next 3 months I will buy elsewhere, probably an Audi or BMW as both have excellent diesel engines which offer performance and ecomony. I dont want to, but I am tired of waiting.

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