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JAJ on Saab featured some relevant excerpts as translated and forwarded by Johnny.
ctm has been kind enough to translate the entire interview published at Dagens Industri and it makes for very good reading.
Thanks ctm!!
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Saab Automobile CEO demands help from the government
Jan-Åke Jonsson, CEO Saab Automobile, has presented the Swedish government with a list of demands. Among other things, he like to double the tax reduction on green cars, make it cheaper to have an E85 car as a company car, accelerate the scraping of older vehicles, and get Government loans for the development of new cars.
- “The negotiations are both positive and constructive, but I can feel that they are advancing a little too slow,” says Jan-Åke Jonsson to DI.
The current crises for General Motors, a company that needs Government support to have a life after Christmas, have an effect on Saab in Sweden. On Tuesday, GM – together with Ford and Chrysler – will present a plan in order to persuade the Congress to give them a 25 billion dollar bailout package.
The rumors the last few days have been about GM selling of Saab together with Pontiac and Saturn in a move to persuade the American politicians, who definitely don’t want the money to end up outside the US.
- “Since we are a part of GM, we have also been involved in shaping the plan. I know what has been discussed. I can tell you that Saab is very strong inside GM, we have a well defined profile, we are well integrated, and cooperate with several other brands. You have to draw your on conclusions from that.”
Is Saab a part of GM three years from now?
- “Yes, that is my belief. When we have full production of our new models, we expect a volume of about 150,000-175,000 cars per year. Then we have a solid profitability and can contribute to GM overall.”
We meet at the Saab office in Stockholm. At the moment, the CEO spends more time here than in Trollhättan.
- “I have visited the Ministry of Enterprise, Energy and Communications several times the last few weeks, and we keep in very close contact.
What kind of support do you want?
- “We expect that they take measures to get the market going again. For us, the big problem today is that customers hesitates. That is why we have proposed a package to lure the costumers back.”
But the CEO also want’s financial support for the development of new car models.
- “We want to guarantee the investments we are facing for our future model lineup. Of course, GM has its own plan on how to solve this; the sale of assets is one example of this. All this aims to improve cash-flow. But if the crises continues, new models may have to be postponed to free up some capital. One way to avoid that is to have some form of loan or financial guarantee from the Government.”
Jan-Åke Jonsson will not disclose what amount of money it’s all about, but maintain that no new models have been postponed – with one exception:
- “The only model we have postponed is the 9-4X from 20009 to 2010. We have emerged in a favorable position from those discussions inside GM.”
The Swedish Minister for Enterprise and Energy have asked GM and Ford what their plans are for Saab and Volvo…
- “And she got an answer. There are no doubts about GMs plans for Saab. But the Government has to make a decision. At the moment, there is a possibility to influence how the Swedish auto industry will look in the future. And the earlier you decide, the more influence you can have.”
When do you want an answer form the Government about your own proposals?
- “I expect to have it any day now.”
Saab has lost 18% of the sale so far this year, but according to Jan-Åke Jonsson it’s not very surprising.
- “We had expected 2008 and 2009 to be difficult years, for the very reason that we are on the verge to introduce new models. We had calculated this downturn, and took measures last year to adjust production capacity.”
But you are down over 30% in the US?
- “We have taken a decision to not chase volumes at any costs. Instead, we have raised prices with 11% between 2008 and 2009, have sell cars with a higher level of equipment which have a positive impact on our margins, we have abandoned some sale channels [?], and the US operations has actually gone from a negative return to a segment-positive return – despite the loss of 8,500 cars.”
This year, Saab will end up selling about 100,000 cars, and next year even less. But Jan-Åke Jonsson confirms that two new models will be introduced and produced during 2009. The all new 9-5 “during the later part of the year”, and the 9-3X – a raised combi, with some exterior changes and four-wheel drive.
- “I think there is a bigger potential for that car than we have imagined. It’s more of a passenger car than what a cross-over is. It’s a segment that has the potential to grow even more than we thought.”
Is the smaller 9-1 off the table?
- “No. We have a need for a smaller car, and there are several different ideas for it. If it is developed together with other cars inside GM, the process could go very quick. But first GM has to get some clarification about the financial situation, if they will get the Government bailout plan.”
It sounds like the decision about a smaller car is far away in the future?
- “I don’t think so.”
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4 responses so far ↓
1 saabista63
// Nov 30, 2008 at 8:16 am
This sounds pretty good.
I have to say that I was not so sure what GM was going to do with Saab;
however, JAJ doesn’t leave much doubt about Saab being a GM brand in the years to come.
I don’t think Saab would have made much of a stand outside of GM.
I just can’t see any other partners out there right now – so I guess, GM is as good as it gets.
But come Monday – and then Dec 5, and we’ll see what’s really going to happen.
Yours
saabista63
2 Markac
// Nov 30, 2008 at 8:55 am
Some nice words and if you believe them, encouraging. But I guess he’s just toeing the company line? As far as GM is concerned, I threw away the rose coloured glasses about four years ago.
It’s funny there hasn’t been an official GM denial about a possible sale of Saab this time. I guess they are leaving all their options open at the moment. I’m sure they will do just what they have to do to secure a government bailout. If that includes selling Saab and shuttering Pontiac and Saturn, that’s what they’ll do, as long as they don’t shutter Saab! I don’t like or trust GM but if they do that, I’ll positively hate them.
As some others have said, why don’t they just sell Buick to the Chinese which would be beneficial for all parties concerned. Maybe GM just has too much pride to do that?
3 Nate9-3
// Dec 1, 2008 at 12:45 pm
Thanks for the translation, CTM.
4 Alex
// Dec 1, 2008 at 2:37 pm
I actually kinda like the idea of splitting Saturn and Pontiac off of GM along with Saab, but GM would have to be intelligent about it. What would make sense to me, especially if GM is to get bailed out by the fed who understandably wouldn’t want any bailout money going overseas, would be to split GM into two different companies. You’d end up with GM North America, and Opel motors.
GM’s ailing North American division is the most in need of a bailout, but it’s also pretty clear that it needs a major restructuring in order to stay solvent in the long-term future, there are just too many overlapping product lines. It’s not that any of GM’s North American brands are particularly bad, there’s just alot of overlap. Splitting Opel off into a separate company would allow GM NA to divest itself from some of those brands without having to pull off expensive Oldsmobile-style shutdowns.
If I were to split off any American brands to Opel, Saturn and Pontiac would be my first two choices because their lineups would work the best with Opel’s (and Holden’s since ideally Holden would be split off with Opel). Saturn would become a US sales outlet for Opel products, possibly using Mexican manufacturing to keep costs down and avoid overpriced fiascos like the Saturn Astra. Pontiac meanwhile would be sold alongside Saturn as the new, true “excitement division”. Instead of poor selling red-line sport editions of Saturns, the performance models would be sold as Pontiacs, along with the Holden-based G8 sport sedan and the Solstice which would be Pontiac-only halo models. While Saturn’s lineup would consist of Honda and Toyota-fighting basic transportation appliances, Pontiacs would be the brash, aggressive performance machines. Take the insignia; Saturn would get the 4-cylinder and V6 fwd models while the 2.8T XWD version would be the new Pontiac G6. Likewise, the basic Astra would be a Saturn model while the 250+hp turbocharged Mazdaspeed 3 killer would be a Pontiac. This way the brands would have strong, new identities that compliment each other and really draw buyers into dealerships.
Obviously Saab would also be part of this split off, but I’ve said what I think about that one before. Now that I’ve heard the latest rumors, the idea of splitting Opel, Holden, Saab, Pontiac, and Saturn off of Chevrolet, Buick, Cadillac, GMC, and Daewoo seems like a good one to me.