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	<description>Saab 9-1, 9-3, 9-4x, 9-5, 9-7x News</description>
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		<title>By: riku1100s</title>
		<link>http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/10/eng-monday-am-snippets.html#comment-54182</link>
		<dc:creator>riku1100s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t the green shade of early (&#039;79 or so) 900&#039;s Acacia Green rather then the Malachite one (which came mid- or late 80&#039;s) ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t the green shade of early (&#8217;79 or so) 900&#8242;s Acacia Green rather then the Malachite one (which came mid- or late 80&#8242;s) ?</p>
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		<title>By: eggsngrits</title>
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		<dc:creator>eggsngrits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marko: yes!
Ted:  missed you the first time, I&#039;m glad to hear that it&#039;s not just me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marko: yes!<br />
Ted:  missed you the first time, I&#8217;m glad to hear that it&#8217;s not just me.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkoA</title>
		<link>http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/10/eng-monday-am-snippets.html#comment-54165</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkoA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 06:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;A retro pic from Belle’sDaddy, a brand-new 1980 Saab 900 in Malachite Green.&lt;/em&gt;

Fantastic car! Just as good as it gets. I wish theyd still be producing them (900) today.
Green colour looks very neat and Inca´s are truly the icing of the cake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>A retro pic from Belle’sDaddy, a brand-new 1980 Saab 900 in Malachite Green.</em></p>
<p>Fantastic car! Just as good as it gets. I wish theyd still be producing them (900) today.<br />
Green colour looks very neat and Inca´s are truly the icing of the cake.</p>
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		<title>By: turbin</title>
		<link>http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/10/eng-monday-am-snippets.html#comment-54154</link>
		<dc:creator>turbin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 01:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s even more garish in the metal than in the pics. Like it even more??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s even more garish in the metal than in the pics. Like it even more??</p>
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		<title>By: eggsngrits</title>
		<link>http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/10/eng-monday-am-snippets.html#comment-54153</link>
		<dc:creator>eggsngrits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 01:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Turbin.  I like it.  A LOT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Turbin.  I like it.  A LOT.</p>
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		<title>By: eggsngrits</title>
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		<dc:creator>eggsngrits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 01:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Albert:  I didn&#039;t say that it was necessarily popular, just more popular than here.  There are very few cars even available in green here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Albert:  I didn&#8217;t say that it was necessarily popular, just more popular than here.  There are very few cars even available in green here.</p>
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		<title>By: turbin</title>
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		<dc:creator>turbin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eggs, the green 9-5 is our local Saab indie&#039;s project &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.swedishprestige.com.au/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;see more here under ABOTT project car&lt;/a&gt;

Apparently goes like mad but the colour&#039;s not my cup of tea at all</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eggs, the green 9-5 is our local Saab indie&#8217;s project <a href="http://www.swedishprestige.com.au/" rel="nofollow">see more here under ABOTT project car</a></p>
<p>Apparently goes like mad but the colour&#8217;s not my cup of tea at all</p>
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		<title>By: albert</title>
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		<dc:creator>albert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 20:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Green a popular colour in Europe? People over here buy any colour as long as it is grey!!!!
In the middle of the nineties there was a small period of time in which people bought green. Now they don&#039;t. When we were still driving around in our first Saab (Monza red), my wife and I often said that our next one would be a green one. But when the moment came to order one, there were 1.800 reasons not to, so we ordered ambassador blue and afterwards we were very happy, because we didn&#039;t like the green of that time at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Green a popular colour in Europe? People over here buy any colour as long as it is grey!!!!<br />
In the middle of the nineties there was a small period of time in which people bought green. Now they don&#8217;t. When we were still driving around in our first Saab (Monza red), my wife and I often said that our next one would be a green one. But when the moment came to order one, there were 1.800 reasons not to, so we ordered ambassador blue and afterwards we were very happy, because we didn&#8217;t like the green of that time at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never liked green on cars.  Any shade of green on any car.  Unless it&#039;s on a Jag or an Aston, I guess, and even then, not so much.  The Malachite green isn&#039;t too bad, though, because it&#039;s kind of a gray-blue-green, but the 96 and 9-5 just look odd to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never liked green on cars.  Any shade of green on any car.  Unless it&#8217;s on a Jag or an Aston, I guess, and even then, not so much.  The Malachite green isn&#8217;t too bad, though, because it&#8217;s kind of a gray-blue-green, but the 96 and 9-5 just look odd to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Tedjs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tedjs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 16:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“What are automotive OEMs thinking when they make these cars?” – Love that question. Technicians have been asking this for years, and we never get a good answer to this – especially in relation to all the electronics that are infiltrating new vehicles and trying to keep up with constant change.

Just the other day I talked to a Saturn tech who was struggling to customize the door locks on a new Astra due to the non-standard GM interface that the vehicle uses via a separate Tech II program (he finally found the information). This combined with nearly zero new model training made for a great day for him.

And then there are those Cadillac guys that are working on Saab’s now (and Saab tech’s that are working on Cadillac’s) as GM slowly but continually integrates Saab into their curriculum. Talk about crossing party lines – neither technician wants to work on the other’s vehicle but as the dealers merge it is inevitable. At least some training is available – but they have a long way to go.

Unfortunately GM has been famous for this behavior over the years. Toyota’s sold as Chevy’s. Honda engines in Saturn’s. The list goes on… 

This is another reason why I find the GM merger with Chrysler downright laughable. Cross training dealer technicians alone and integrating service information etc. would be a monumental task to say the least.

As for the airbag light – don’t feel bad Eggs, Toyota did this for years as well. All you needed was a special cable for your standard OBD II scan tool to plug into a unique non-standardized port to reset the light via a special program that came with the cable. Oh what a feeling… ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“What are automotive OEMs thinking when they make these cars?” – Love that question. Technicians have been asking this for years, and we never get a good answer to this – especially in relation to all the electronics that are infiltrating new vehicles and trying to keep up with constant change.</p>
<p>Just the other day I talked to a Saturn tech who was struggling to customize the door locks on a new Astra due to the non-standard GM interface that the vehicle uses via a separate Tech II program (he finally found the information). This combined with nearly zero new model training made for a great day for him.</p>
<p>And then there are those Cadillac guys that are working on Saab’s now (and Saab tech’s that are working on Cadillac’s) as GM slowly but continually integrates Saab into their curriculum. Talk about crossing party lines – neither technician wants to work on the other’s vehicle but as the dealers merge it is inevitable. At least some training is available – but they have a long way to go.</p>
<p>Unfortunately GM has been famous for this behavior over the years. Toyota’s sold as Chevy’s. Honda engines in Saturn’s. The list goes on… </p>
<p>This is another reason why I find the GM merger with Chrysler downright laughable. Cross training dealer technicians alone and integrating service information etc. would be a monumental task to say the least.</p>
<p>As for the airbag light – don’t feel bad Eggs, Toyota did this for years as well. All you needed was a special cable for your standard OBD II scan tool to plug into a unique non-standardized port to reset the light via a special program that came with the cable. Oh what a feeling… <img src='http://www.trollhattansaab.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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