Comments on: End of the Canada Trip megasnippets http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/09/end-of-the-canada-trip-megasnippets.html Saab 9-1, 9-3, 9-4x, 9-5, 9-7x News Thu, 11 Dec 2008 06:34:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: joemama http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/09/end-of-the-canada-trip-megasnippets.html#comment-53234 joemama Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:28:17 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/?p=8208#comment-53234 Mats - GM is that DUMB. Its like talking to a wall. Can someone please explain how VW can bring them to the US, but all GM has are excuses as to why they can't..... Mats – GM is that DUMB. Its like talking to a wall.

Can someone please explain how VW can bring them to the US, but all GM has are excuses as to why they can’t…..

]]> By: ehall1 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/09/end-of-the-canada-trip-megasnippets.html#comment-53228 ehall1 Wed, 24 Sep 2008 18:42:55 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/?p=8208#comment-53228 What can you say? GM is going to be the same old ostrich in the sand, but they will have their hand out to "Uncle Sugar" and trying to get in on the bail out. Well duhh, if they would turn out good products, then they wouldn't have to sweat it anyway. The Japanese are beating their pants off, and Europe isn't far behind. What can you say? GM is going to be the same old ostrich in the sand, but they will have their hand out to “Uncle Sugar” and trying to get in on the bail out. Well duhh, if they would turn out good products, then they wouldn’t have to sweat it anyway. The Japanese are beating their pants off, and Europe isn’t far behind.

]]> By: Mats http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/09/end-of-the-canada-trip-megasnippets.html#comment-53225 Mats Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:02:37 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/?p=8208#comment-53225 AS for the diesel spoils I just read this on the VW-Vortex forum... "They must be doing something right at VWoA, as the Jetta Clean Diesel is sold out for the next 2.5 years at my closest dealer." Get your ass out of the closet GM and realize that you're going to miss out bigtime of you dont act now and act fast.... AS for the diesel spoils I just read this on the VW-Vortex forum…

“They must be doing something right at VWoA, as the Jetta Clean Diesel is sold out for the next 2.5 years at my closest dealer.”

Get your ass out of the closet GM and realize that you’re going to miss out bigtime of you dont act now and act fast….

]]> By: MagnusE http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/09/end-of-the-canada-trip-megasnippets.html#comment-53218 MagnusE Wed, 24 Sep 2008 07:38:42 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/?p=8208#comment-53218 "the Saab 9-4x will not be shown in Detroit early in 2009, as originally assumed. Rather, both Autoblog and AMS in Sweden are hinting that it’ll show late in 2008 at the Los Angeles Auto Show." Does this mean that the new 9-5 will be shown in Detroit? “the Saab 9-4x will not be shown in Detroit early in 2009, as originally assumed. Rather, both Autoblog and AMS in Sweden are hinting that it’ll show late in 2008 at the Los Angeles Auto Show.”

Does this mean that the new 9-5 will be shown in Detroit?

]]> By: Snotfjold http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/09/end-of-the-canada-trip-megasnippets.html#comment-53217 Snotfjold Wed, 24 Sep 2008 07:04:01 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/?p=8208#comment-53217 Gripen and others you'll not see the production model of the 9-4X in LA but rather the 9-4X Concept that has been shown in various shows in Europe and US already. I would not believe any reports claiming that the production car will be revealed globally in the US this time around. Gripen and others you’ll not see the production model of the 9-4X in LA but rather the 9-4X Concept that has been shown in various shows in Europe and US already.

I would not believe any reports claiming that the production car will be revealed globally in the US this time around.

]]> By: Jeff http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/09/end-of-the-canada-trip-megasnippets.html#comment-53216 Jeff Wed, 24 Sep 2008 06:09:04 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/?p=8208#comment-53216 I knew you were gonna trash the Rendezvous for being stupid on the inside. It doesn't matter. They stopped selling the Rendezvous. It's a badge-engineered POS, and that's why it's appointed so terribly. The Enclave is where it's at. Try THAT for a while, then you can judge Buick. Judging them with the Rendezvous is like judging Saab with the 600. I knew you were gonna trash the Rendezvous for being stupid on the inside.

It doesn’t matter. They stopped selling the Rendezvous. It’s a badge-engineered POS, and that’s why it’s appointed so terribly. The Enclave is where it’s at. Try THAT for a while, then you can judge Buick. Judging them with the Rendezvous is like judging Saab with the 600.

]]> By: 1985 Gripen http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/09/end-of-the-canada-trip-megasnippets.html#comment-53210 1985 Gripen Wed, 24 Sep 2008 02:43:23 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/?p=8208#comment-53210 Oh, and safe travels, Swade. Yesterday was the Autumnal Equinox so you're traveling south across the equator just as the sun did! Oh, and safe travels, Swade. Yesterday was the Autumnal Equinox so you’re traveling south across the equator just as the sun did!

]]> By: 1985 Gripen http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/09/end-of-the-canada-trip-megasnippets.html#comment-53209 1985 Gripen Wed, 24 Sep 2008 02:42:06 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/?p=8208#comment-53209 Well, I'll be at the Los Angeles Auto Show as usual so if the 9-4X is there I'll share pics and anything I learn that we didn't already know (though other than the "press day" I'm not privy to Saab rarely shares anything at this show). I suggest when you do update the Future Models Timeline (coincidentally I discovered that feature at TS just a few days ago) I suggest you strikeout rather than delete the old info. It'll give us a historical record of the delays! ;-) Did Forbes count certified pre-owned 9-5s? Because we just traded-in our 2001 9-3 5-door for a CPO 2005 9-5 Arc SportWagon yesterday. The salesman told me that they'd been trying to sell it for four weeks(!) and they just had to drop the price. We bought it for $5 more than wholesale! This car must've cost $40K+ three years ago when it was new and we got it for $16.5K (which includes the bumper-to-bumper warranty valid until April 2011). It devalued 2/3 of its total value in just three years. Bad for the previous owner, GREAT for me! The car is like new. Even came with the accessory rubber cargo mat. I just wish it had the ventilated seats. With so few new 9-5s being sold the last several years it makes them scarce on the used market. But beggars can't be choosers! :-) Just noticed at the dealer I was at this weekend that they dumped HUMMER. It was previously one of those GM packaged "premium" brand dealers, selling Cadillac, HUMMER, and Saab. They dumped HUMMER but the same ownership group just bought the nearby Subaru dealer. Funniest thing I saw on the lot: lots of foot traffic checking out the Cadillac Escalade Hybrid. They sell for around $70K. "Let's see, I want a Cadillac Escalade. But I want to appear "green", so I'd better pay extra for the hybrid". :-P Well, I’ll be at the Los Angeles Auto Show as usual so if the 9-4X is there I’ll share pics and anything I learn that we didn’t already know (though other than the “press day” I’m not privy to Saab rarely shares anything at this show).

I suggest when you do update the Future Models Timeline (coincidentally I discovered that feature at TS just a few days ago) I suggest you strikeout rather than delete the old info. It’ll give us a historical record of the delays! ;-)

Did Forbes count certified pre-owned 9-5s? Because we just traded-in our 2001 9-3 5-door for a CPO 2005 9-5 Arc SportWagon yesterday. The salesman told me that they’d been trying to sell it for four weeks(!) and they just had to drop the price. We bought it for $5 more than wholesale! This car must’ve cost $40K+ three years ago when it was new and we got it for $16.5K (which includes the bumper-to-bumper warranty valid until April 2011). It devalued 2/3 of its total value in just three years. Bad for the previous owner, GREAT for me! The car is like new. Even came with the accessory rubber cargo mat. I just wish it had the ventilated seats. With so few new 9-5s being sold the last several years it makes them scarce on the used market. But beggars can’t be choosers! :-)

Just noticed at the dealer I was at this weekend that they dumped HUMMER. It was previously one of those GM packaged “premium” brand dealers, selling Cadillac, HUMMER, and Saab. They dumped HUMMER but the same ownership group just bought the nearby Subaru dealer. Funniest thing I saw on the lot: lots of foot traffic checking out the Cadillac Escalade Hybrid. They sell for around $70K. “Let’s see, I want a Cadillac Escalade. But I want to appear “green”, so I’d better pay extra for the hybrid”. :-P

]]> By: Alex http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/09/end-of-the-canada-trip-megasnippets.html#comment-53194 Alex Tue, 23 Sep 2008 21:55:17 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/?p=8208#comment-53194 If you think a rendezvous feels cheap inside, go check out it's downmarket chevy contemporaries like the cavalier, impala, and malibu. I've seen Lada's and chinese cars with better interior materials. If you think a rendezvous feels cheap inside, go check out it’s downmarket chevy contemporaries like the cavalier, impala, and malibu. I’ve seen Lada’s and chinese cars with better interior materials.

]]> By: Tiago do Vale http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/09/end-of-the-canada-trip-megasnippets.html#comment-53187 Tiago do Vale Tue, 23 Sep 2008 20:07:20 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/?p=8208#comment-53187 hmmm :"/ I'm a Lancia fan, and I think Fiat has a good plan for then: the Ypsilon is a great car and the Delta really impressive! Luxurious, quality built and an amazing road presence! (We must remember the original Delta was as boring as it's platform sibling Fiat Ritmo... The rally craze came afterwords.) Maybe Fiat Auto could make it faster and better for Lancia (if we consider how Alfa was taken care of, and now Fiat itself), but even so they are taking care of Lancia in ways that GM still has to fully demonstrate for Saab, in my opinion. About the 9-X cars, and the 9-3 move to a smaller platform: Wouldn't it be conceivable that both the 9-X could be made realilty just as they are, built on the Delta platform and standing next to the 9-3 in Saab's lineup? Just like Ovlov's C30 and S40/V50 in the C1 platform. So the 9-1 we have been seeing in the 9-X concepts would actually by another car, based on the Gamma platform, and the 9-X concepts would in fact be part of the new 9-3 family... I'm praying for it to be so! :p :) hmmm :”/ I’m a Lancia fan, and I think Fiat has a good plan for then: the Ypsilon is a great car and the Delta really impressive! Luxurious, quality built and an amazing road presence! (We must remember the original Delta was as boring as it’s platform sibling Fiat Ritmo… The rally craze came afterwords.)

Maybe Fiat Auto could make it faster and better for Lancia (if we consider how Alfa was taken care of, and now Fiat itself), but even so they are taking care of Lancia in ways that GM still has to fully demonstrate for Saab, in my opinion.

About the 9-X cars, and the 9-3 move to a smaller platform:
Wouldn’t it be conceivable that both the 9-X could be made realilty just as they are, built on the Delta platform and standing next to the 9-3 in Saab’s lineup? Just like Ovlov’s C30 and S40/V50 in the C1 platform.

So the 9-1 we have been seeing in the 9-X concepts would actually by another car, based on the Gamma platform, and the 9-X concepts would in fact be part of the new 9-3 family… I’m praying for it to be so! :p :)

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