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	<title>Comments on: Turbo X issues in the US are persisting</title>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/06/turbo-x-issues-in-the-us-are-persisting.html#comment-47640</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 03:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To provide some follow up, today I received a call from my saab dealer saying they are going to retrofit a satnav to a SC,  I was told that the Nav would be equal to or better to the factory Nav and you should not be able to tell the difference cosmetically.  This is actually not the car I ordered but another SC they already have in stock.  I will be able to see it next week and look forward to the results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To provide some follow up, today I received a call from my saab dealer saying they are going to retrofit a satnav to a SC,  I was told that the Nav would be equal to or better to the factory Nav and you should not be able to tell the difference cosmetically.  This is actually not the car I ordered but another SC they already have in stock.  I will be able to see it next week and look forward to the results.</p>
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		<title>By: WooDz</title>
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		<dc:creator>WooDz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear that the TurboX has now a very limited stock availability. I wonder if SaabUSA would care to post an available stock list to Swade for him to post. It would mean some customer&#039;s who have had problems could pick out a few alternative vehicles and show them to their dealer without the sales manger having to second guess a specification. It still might not match the original order but could have some options that would be worthy of some compensation.

Personally I wouldn&#039;t order an integrated SatNav system due to initial expense, plus the cost of an upgraded DVD later will cost more than a handheld device.

If this had happened to my order then naturally I would not be best pleased. However; I&#039;m not sure how I would react given the exclusivity of the TurboX. The car will drive just as well without a SatNav and if you do get lost, It might make the adventure more exciting?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear that the TurboX has now a very limited stock availability. I wonder if SaabUSA would care to post an available stock list to Swade for him to post. It would mean some customer&#8217;s who have had problems could pick out a few alternative vehicles and show them to their dealer without the sales manger having to second guess a specification. It still might not match the original order but could have some options that would be worthy of some compensation.</p>
<p>Personally I wouldn&#8217;t order an integrated SatNav system due to initial expense, plus the cost of an upgraded DVD later will cost more than a handheld device.</p>
<p>If this had happened to my order then naturally I would not be best pleased. However; I&#8217;m not sure how I would react given the exclusivity of the TurboX. The car will drive just as well without a SatNav and if you do get lost, It might make the adventure more exciting?</p>
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		<title>By: Gunnar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gunnar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s okay. The GPS in the Turbo X that I drove was rather daft. 

Or maybe it was just the driver.

Sorry, Jan-Willem ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s okay. The GPS in the Turbo X that I drove was rather daft. </p>
<p>Or maybe it was just the driver.</p>
<p>Sorry, Jan-Willem <img src='http://www.trollhattansaab.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Neutrino</title>
		<link>http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/06/turbo-x-issues-in-the-us-are-persisting.html#comment-47594</link>
		<dc:creator>Neutrino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 05:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A couple of positive Turbo X reviews:

Forbes:
http://www.forbes.com/video/?video=fvn/lifestyle/mdp_veh060608

Bloomberg:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601093&amp;sid=a9_kov_cKARg&amp;refer=</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of positive Turbo X reviews:</p>
<p>Forbes:<br />
<a href="http://www.forbes.com/video/?video=fvn/lifestyle/mdp_veh060608" rel="nofollow">http://www.forbes.com/video/?video=fvn/lifestyle/mdp_veh060608</a></p>
<p>Bloomberg:<br />
<a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601093&#038;sid=a9_kov_cKARg&#038;refer" rel="nofollow">http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601093&#038;sid=a9_kov_cKARg&#038;refer</a>=</p>
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		<title>By: Saaboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saaboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 04:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Swade,

excellent idea with the IPhone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Swade,</p>
<p>excellent idea with the IPhone!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/06/turbo-x-issues-in-the-us-are-persisting.html#comment-47585</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 03:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you all for making light of this issue on your great website.  I agree with the above posts that this is unacceptable.  I realize that the number of SC&#039;s w/ nav in the USA is tiny so I am not optimistic.  I still do love the car and am not ready to write off Saab yet however, the customer service rep I initially spoke with didn&#039;t know what a Turbo X was and didn&#039;t know they were made in Sweden.  I have subsequently emailed some other Saab authorites who say they have forwarded my email to the appropriate people.  We will see what happens.  I appreciate the above advice and will try to keep you posted on the developments.  Regards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you all for making light of this issue on your great website.  I agree with the above posts that this is unacceptable.  I realize that the number of SC&#8217;s w/ nav in the USA is tiny so I am not optimistic.  I still do love the car and am not ready to write off Saab yet however, the customer service rep I initially spoke with didn&#8217;t know what a Turbo X was and didn&#8217;t know they were made in Sweden.  I have subsequently emailed some other Saab authorites who say they have forwarded my email to the appropriate people.  We will see what happens.  I appreciate the above advice and will try to keep you posted on the developments.  Regards.</p>
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		<title>By: aeronaut</title>
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		<dc:creator>aeronaut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 02:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe its not such a bad thing.  they are way overpriced,  take up alot of space in the dash,  and can become obsolete in a couple of years.  a proper install of an aftermarket can be ok or in my case i just use my blackberry phone which has satnav and looks fine dashmounted.

hope it gets worked out Marks satisfaction,  it is a car to be enjoyed for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe its not such a bad thing.  they are way overpriced,  take up alot of space in the dash,  and can become obsolete in a couple of years.  a proper install of an aftermarket can be ok or in my case i just use my blackberry phone which has satnav and looks fine dashmounted.</p>
<p>hope it gets worked out Marks satisfaction,  it is a car to be enjoyed for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: dmk</title>
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		<dc:creator>dmk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 02:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some Turbo X SCs have shipped to the US with Nav.  Doesn&#039;t seem to be a great demand for this car on the west coast.  Mark might want to reorder a 9-3 Aero with XWD.  They go into production July 7th and will be less $ than Turbo X.  Very few differences except for wheels.  Might also want to look at the 2009 A4.  The larger dimensions and new 2.0 TFSI engine have upped the anty for this class.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some Turbo X SCs have shipped to the US with Nav.  Doesn&#8217;t seem to be a great demand for this car on the west coast.  Mark might want to reorder a 9-3 Aero with XWD.  They go into production July 7th and will be less $ than Turbo X.  Very few differences except for wheels.  Might also want to look at the 2009 A4.  The larger dimensions and new 2.0 TFSI engine have upped the anty for this class.</p>
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		<title>By: 2-don</title>
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		<dc:creator>2-don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn skippy!  It&#039;s a limited edition car!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn skippy!  It&#8217;s a limited edition car!!!</p>
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		<title>By: jchan2</title>
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		<dc:creator>jchan2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that this is extremely unacceptable- if I were Saab, I would immediately buy back the car and produce another one, WITH SatNav.
I don&#039;t know if that would harm the Turbo X&#039;s exclusivity (not to mention increase the customer&#039;s wait), but at the very least, I&#039;d be asking for some massive rebates and freebies. 
I&#039;m buying a $40,000 car; can&#039;t I get it exactly how I want it? Especially since I&#039;m waiting for a specially ordered one..

Even with a Kia/Hyundai/Honda/Toyota dealer, this would be unacceptable. I&#039;d refuse delivery until the right car in the right combination was delivered to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that this is extremely unacceptable- if I were Saab, I would immediately buy back the car and produce another one, WITH SatNav.<br />
I don&#8217;t know if that would harm the Turbo X&#8217;s exclusivity (not to mention increase the customer&#8217;s wait), but at the very least, I&#8217;d be asking for some massive rebates and freebies.<br />
I&#8217;m buying a $40,000 car; can&#8217;t I get it exactly how I want it? Especially since I&#8217;m waiting for a specially ordered one..</p>
<p>Even with a Kia/Hyundai/Honda/Toyota dealer, this would be unacceptable. I&#8217;d refuse delivery until the right car in the right combination was delivered to me.</p>
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