Teknikens claiming 9-5 spyshots?
What’s going on over at Tekniken’s Varld?
I received an email (not from them, though) saying that they had what might be the first spyshots of the new Saab 9-5. I clicked over and there was nothing.
On the cover of the latest issue there’s a reference to shots of the 9-5 - see the top right corner - but it hardly looks Saabish to me from the little you can see there. Click.
And by the way, I hope Volvo build whatever that is on the front cover. I need a good laugh.
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Wouldn’t trust Teknikens Värld for the world… I think that’s a Holden actually, owned by Saab Automobile in Trollhättan, tough.
And that Volvo?! OMG…
That is not a new Volvo - it’s a new Edsel…
I too wish Volvo would build the “V100″. Saab could steal a lot of sales from that thing!
The allegded spyshot of the next 9-5 was too small to make anything out of. But it wouldn’t surprise me if we soon were to see some real spyshots of it.
It’s impossible for Volvo to build that car, since the perspective is all twisted.
Couldn’t Teknikens Värld (don’t call them “Teknikens” by the way, it doesn’t make sense) get a decent artist?
If Volvo produces a V100, it will not look like that, you probably WON’T laugh, and Saab WILL probably have to worry. It’s the VCC concept come to life.
Hei
The spyshot is not a 9-5, at least not the bodywork. Checked the registration with “svenska vägvärket” and it is a Holden registered to SAAB in Trollhättan, for testing. Have a 260 bhp engine, probably the 2.8T V6. I guess the tech. under the body is 9-5, but the body is not. On another site there are talks about that it is the new Buick LaCrosse, also a sibling..? Showed the pictures to a “djup strupe” I know, who had seen the new 9-5 sedan and estate on the GM-conference in Germany recently, and it looks quite different from these pictures. Windscreen was slightly curved, and the roof was remarkably flat he said. Also a lot of AeroX styling to be expected, and that was as much as he would give away…
That’s not 9-5 - it’s a Buick. Saab must be doing the XWD development work on it.
Few more shots of that “mystery” here: http://tinyurl.com/54kh9d
Aftonbladet reveals some news of future 9-3. They write that 9-2 and 9-3 will actually be same car with a different rear. Just like we´ve been reading here at TS. They say that new 9-2 production starts at 2011 and 9-3 a year after.
http://www.aftonbladet.se/bil/article2423144.ab
Hi Swade,
You posted something similar, early May:
http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/05/dutchies-call-this-the-next-saab-9-5.html
It looks the same, just with a different set of wheels. The Dutch article talks about the Opel Insigna influence. Funny that no spy shots have come out of Germany?
MarkoA: whilst there’s probably a grain of truth in that “Aftonbladet” article last month, I truly hope we don’t get a Golf sized 9-2 and a Jetta style 9-3 a year later with probably a Corsa derived 9-1 to follow.
The 9-1 needs to be Astra/Golf sized and the 9-3 sedan/hatch needs to be a longer version of the Delta II platform. Any 9-3 hatch version should still be called a 9-3 as it should not be considered a lower model. I’m not sure if Saab really needs the whole Golf/Jetta thing with the next 9-3. The Mazda 6 sedan/hatch idea is a better way to go (as long as we get a 3 door too!). Anyway if things go the way Aftonbladet suggests, there will be an enormous gap between the 9-3 and the 9-5. What car will fill that?
@ Markac
Completely agree. Splitting model designation, i.e. (Golf/Jetta=9-2/9-3) on the basis of a hatch or boot devalues the brand, as its obvious to everyone, even if you give each car a different front end, apart from the marketing dept, that its the same car with ….. a boot, wow. Just a waste of a model designation & ultimately brand damaging. Lets hope they have more sense
This is a Commodore front end and similar cabin but the backend is to short for a commodore. This could be either of two things 1 - as mentioned by Torgeir Båtnes it could be a Holden mule testing the 2.8l V6, which explains the holden front end and a more coupe back end. or 2 - this is a Holden which SAAB is working on to put a 4 cyclinder engine in as Holden has stated it is working on. GM could be using SAAB to drop a 4 cylinder turbo in the Commodore to give similar output to there Sixes.
I think it looks a heck of a lot like the new CTS wagon (which is on my short list of Cars I Really Want That Don’t Exist But Will Soon).
probaqbly the buick invictica/ lacrosse replacement, that would seem likely from what other people are saying
this is what it looks like to me
http://news.windingroad.com/body-stylesmarket-segment/sedans/2010-buick-lacrosse-breaks-cover/
A Buick (LaCrosse) yes, but could serve as a 9-5 chassis/powertrain mule as well, as it is a long-wheelbase eps II vehicle.
Auto Motor und Sport also had images of it a while ago, though with different Swedish plates (MUR 259)
The images of both the cars (look carefully the are not the same car) are wearing the holden roundal, not the buicks one.
Boy, that Volvo sure is porky! They call it li’l meatball around the design shops I’m sure.
BTW, seems that the Caddy CTS is getting a 3,0/260 hp V6, so that will probably be the 9-4X’s mystery 3000 V6 non-turbo engine.
http://www.teknikensvarld.se/nyheter/080602-cadillac-cts-kombi/index.xml
If the next 9-3 is the same size as a Jetta, it will be slightly bigger than a classic 900 or NG900.
I have no problem with that.
If anything, I wouldn’t mind the car being slightly smaller than that, as long as it it well packaged: take away 20cm from the bonnet so there is no space for a V6, and put back 10cm of that in the cabin.
The one thing that I think Saab has to work on is getting a flat floor when the rear seats are down.
Didn’t read all the comments, so if someone said this before, I apologize. That “Volvo” on the cover is but-ugly, but I think that the “real” version will be better-looking than that. Something about that picture looks very flat.
Tekniken’s Varld must be Swedish for “Ten percent Verified”.
Eggs
You didn’t read all the comments!
What kinda web site do you think you are using mate..
I read every comment anyone posts when you have an article up! Honest.
Rgds from Mud Island
Bernard, you must be taking a USA angle on size? In UK, Jetta def one size below - classic 900 was a very long car by Euro standards - longer than a 5 series or Passat - albeit with interior space more akin to a Jetta. If 9-3 were toshrink to Golf size, then Saab are realigning to Audi nomenclature away from BMW. A3 sized 9-3 - not for me! My 9-3 is already too small - and if 9-5 heading up the scale, is there a gap that needs filled????
Mark,
The current Jetta is 10cm shorter than the classic 900, but it is wider and taller.
I think that the 10cm extra has a lot to do with the long bonnet and the lengthwise engine (as opposed to the transverse engine in the Jetta/Golf).
The 900 looks bigger than it really is because it is low and narrow. If you see one parked next to a Jetta/Golf, you will see what I mean.
Well I personally don’t have a problem with Saab making the new 9-3 smaller, just as long as it’s more sportier and stylishthan the current model. They really need something that screams premium performance. I just wanna see some photos of production models soon please!!! 9-1,9-3,9-4 or the 9-5 anything at this point…
I don’t mind the 9-3 shrinking a fraction if it becomes more space efficient, perhaps 4595mm in length? I just don’t want a 9-2 that’s like a Golf, i.e. shorter. We need the new 9-3 hatch and sedan to be the same sized like the Mazda 6 variants are. The smaller Golf/A3/1 series hatch competitor should be the 9-1. If the 9-3 and 9-1 can share a number of components, that’s fine too, but the 9-3 hatches/sedan/convertible and wagon need to be larger and distinctly more up market.
If this happened, the (new) 9-5 would then be over 40cm longer than the (new) 9-3. That’s probably okay, but any more would leave a noticeable gap, but as I said before the whole 9-2/9-3 Golf/Jetta arrangement would be a mistake.
If the 9-1 could be about the same length as the 1 series hatch (4240mm), that would make it over 35cm shorter than the slightly shorter length for the 9-3 I suggested. That would fit in with the difference between 9-3 and 9-5.