Comments on: LLN claim a 9-5 sneak peek http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/04/lln-claim-a-9-5-sneak-peek.html Saab 9-1, 9-3, 9-4x, 9-5, 9-7x News Thu, 11 Dec 2008 06:34:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: A http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/04/lln-claim-a-9-5-sneak-peek.html#comment-43985 A Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:41:10 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/?p=5965#comment-43985 Can only agree with some of the others that have seen the actual vehicle. The pictures from LLN has parts that are close, as the front lights. However, it had a more round shape, like the A6. When I saw the rear my first thought was Jaguar XF. To sum it up, it will be a killer! Can only agree with some of the others that have seen the actual vehicle. The pictures from LLN has parts that are close, as the front lights. However, it had a more round shape, like the A6. When I saw the rear my first thought was Jaguar XF. To sum it up, it will be a killer!

]]> By: No.9 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/04/lln-claim-a-9-5-sneak-peek.html#comment-43578 No.9 Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:32:27 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/?p=5965#comment-43578 Talked to my excellent (and disgruntled) Saab Saturn dealer in Lévis, Qc. today. We looked at the sketch of the 9-5 (which Me justly implied will be built on a stretched Epsilon II) and his first reaction is that it is close to what he saw last summer in Sweden. Fortunately, he did say the real thing had more «oomph». For one, the front fascia was more exciting. Of course he was completely terrified at the idea of having to wait until 2012 for the next 9-3. It would be nothing short of suicidal. Speaking of the 9-3, he was allotted two Turbo Xs and both are sold, which is great news as he is not selling many Saabs these days. Not easy when you can get a brand new Merc «C» for less than a 9-3. Of course, he doesn't have a clue as to when he will get them. As Swade pointed out I believe, in many cases, GM Canada is responsible for the problems clients have been having obtaining information from their dealers. They are completely left in the dark by their «partner». Talked to my excellent (and disgruntled) Saab Saturn dealer in Lévis, Qc. today. We looked at the sketch of the 9-5 (which Me justly implied will be built on a stretched Epsilon II) and his first reaction is that it is close to what he saw last summer in Sweden. Fortunately, he did say the real thing had more «oomph». For one, the front fascia was more exciting.

Of course he was completely terrified at the idea of having to wait until 2012 for the next 9-3. It would be nothing short of suicidal. Speaking of the 9-3, he was allotted two Turbo Xs and both are sold, which is great news as he is not selling many Saabs these days. Not easy when you can get a brand new Merc «C» for less than a 9-3. Of course, he doesn’t have a clue as to when he will get them. As Swade pointed out I believe, in many cases, GM Canada is responsible for the problems clients have been having obtaining information from their dealers. They are completely left in the dark by their «partner».

]]> By: Alex http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/04/lln-claim-a-9-5-sneak-peek.html#comment-43399 Alex Sun, 20 Apr 2008 00:35:06 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/?p=5965#comment-43399 Yeah, definitely. I seriously hope that all the raves from Saab dealers who've seen the real thing are a sign that the real car will look nothing like this. The front end would have been great in 2004, but times have changed and today you need alot more to stick out from the crowd the way that a Saab should. Yeah, definitely. I seriously hope that all the raves from Saab dealers who’ve seen the real thing are a sign that the real car will look nothing like this. The front end would have been great in 2004, but times have changed and today you need alot more to stick out from the crowd the way that a Saab should.

]]> By: Adam http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/04/lln-claim-a-9-5-sneak-peek.html#comment-43394 Adam Sat, 19 Apr 2008 22:09:55 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/?p=5965#comment-43394 Wow, super lame. If that's it, Saab should just close its doors now. I'm serious. Wow, super lame. If that’s it, Saab should just close its doors now. I’m serious.

]]> By: Me http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/04/lln-claim-a-9-5-sneak-peek.html#comment-43390 Me Sat, 19 Apr 2008 18:29:35 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/?p=5965#comment-43390 Hi, I'm not allowed to comment this picture, but it is much what we will get in 2010. Proportiions are little differen, but designers newer knowed how to get proportions right on the paper. On any case, it will be longer than the insignia. Hi,
I’m not allowed to comment this picture, but it is much what we will get in 2010. Proportiions are little differen, but designers newer knowed how to get proportions right on the paper.
On any case, it will be longer than the insignia.

]]> By: Thad http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/04/lln-claim-a-9-5-sneak-peek.html#comment-43387 Thad Sat, 19 Apr 2008 17:05:16 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/?p=5965#comment-43387 Here is the link to the LLN Buick Sketch and the GM Concept, and how similar they are... http://www.leftlanenews.com/buick-lacrosse-invicta.html Here is the link to the LLN Buick Sketch and the GM Concept, and how similar they are…

http://www.leftlanenews.com/buick-lacrosse-invicta.html

]]> By: Thad http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/04/lln-claim-a-9-5-sneak-peek.html#comment-43386 Thad Sat, 19 Apr 2008 17:02:50 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/?p=5965#comment-43386 At first I did not think that this was to close to what Saab woudl be producing, but then on another site, someone who claimed to have seen direct images from Saab said it was pretty spot on, and then GM showed the new Buick Invicta Concept, which LLN had predicted almost exactly, in a sketch similar in style to the Saab one. Therefore I think that this is pretty much exactly what we will see in Paris. At first I did not think that this was to close to what Saab woudl be producing, but then on another site, someone who claimed to have seen direct images from Saab said it was pretty spot on, and then GM showed the new Buick Invicta Concept, which LLN had predicted almost exactly, in a sketch similar in style to the Saab one. Therefore I think that this is pretty much exactly what we will see in Paris.

]]> By: No.9 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/04/lln-claim-a-9-5-sneak-peek.html#comment-43385 No.9 Sat, 19 Apr 2008 16:51:22 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/?p=5965#comment-43385 No doubt, the Insignia will make a nice Saturn... Good points from Alex in my view, except a FWD Saab will never handle like a RWD BMW. Not important in my case as I prefer FWD, living in a Nordic country. AWD will surely be available for those who demand more. As for the CTS, no doubt the new one is a huge leap forward, but it is still uncomfortable for tall people in the front and anybody in the back. This is what scares me about GM. They can miss the most obvious and that's why a Saab must remain a Saab, wherever it's built, on whichever platform it's sharing with a GM sibling. No doubt, the Insignia will make a nice Saturn… Good points from Alex in my view, except a FWD Saab will never handle like a RWD BMW. Not important in my case as I prefer FWD, living in a Nordic country. AWD will surely be available for those who demand more. As for the CTS, no doubt the new one is a huge leap forward, but it is still uncomfortable for tall people in the front and anybody in the back. This is what scares me about GM. They can miss the most obvious and that’s why a Saab must remain a Saab, wherever it’s built, on whichever platform it’s sharing with a GM sibling.

]]> By: Alex http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/04/lln-claim-a-9-5-sneak-peek.html#comment-43384 Alex Sat, 19 Apr 2008 16:37:36 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/?p=5965#comment-43384 Oh, and it needs to be priced like an Infiniti and reliable like a Lexus. here's it's platform-mate, just to show what GM is capable of http://www.autoblog.com/photos/opel-insignia-2/757318/ Oh, and it needs to be priced like an Infiniti and reliable like a Lexus.

here’s it’s platform-mate, just to show what GM is capable of
http://www.autoblog.com/photos/opel-insignia-2/757318/

]]> By: Alex http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/04/lln-claim-a-9-5-sneak-peek.html#comment-43383 Alex Sat, 19 Apr 2008 16:32:27 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/?p=5965#comment-43383 Whatever lurks under the hood needs to be direct injection across the board. A 2.0T DI engine making ~260 hp would be a great base powerplant, a 2.8t DI engine making ~300 hp would be a great arc-level engine, and a 2.8T or 3.6t DI engine making ~360 would be an awesome Aero powerplant. But this car needs to look as out there as the new CTS, accelerate like a Mercedes, handle like a BMW, and have the fit and finish of an Audi in order to turn perception around and save the brand. If the new insignia is anything to go by, this should be very, very doable for GM. Whatever lurks under the hood needs to be direct injection across the board. A 2.0T DI engine making ~260 hp would be a great base powerplant, a 2.8t DI engine making ~300 hp would be a great arc-level engine, and a 2.8T or 3.6t DI engine making ~360 would be an awesome Aero powerplant.

But this car needs to look as out there as the new CTS, accelerate like a Mercedes, handle like a BMW, and have the fit and finish of an Audi in order to turn perception around and save the brand. If the new insignia is anything to go by, this should be very, very doable for GM.

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