Comments on: Audio controls that I’d like to see in a Saab http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/04/audio-controls-that-id-like-to-see-in-a-saab.html Saab 9-1, 9-3, 9-4x, 9-5, 9-7x News Thu, 11 Dec 2008 06:34:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: joemama http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/04/audio-controls-that-id-like-to-see-in-a-saab.html#comment-42643 joemama Mon, 07 Apr 2008 21:59:39 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/04/audio-controls-that-id-like-to-see-in-a-saab.html#comment-42643 steven - Hey I never said it was good. It's a start though, and it's getting a lot of people to look at Ford models. Too bad GM can't partner with Apple for some sort of "Sync" technology. steven – Hey I never said it was good. It’s a start though, and it’s getting a lot of people to look at Ford models.

Too bad GM can’t partner with Apple for some sort of “Sync” technology.

]]> By: Steven http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/04/audio-controls-that-id-like-to-see-in-a-saab.html#comment-42640 Steven Mon, 07 Apr 2008 21:24:31 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/04/audio-controls-that-id-like-to-see-in-a-saab.html#comment-42640 @jomamam: So how often do you plug a Ford in to get Microsoft Security Vulnerability updates? @jomamam: So how often do you plug a Ford in to get Microsoft Security Vulnerability updates?

]]> By: Ken H http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/04/audio-controls-that-id-like-to-see-in-a-saab.html#comment-42639 Ken H Mon, 07 Apr 2008 21:08:05 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/04/audio-controls-that-id-like-to-see-in-a-saab.html#comment-42639 What exactly is wrong with a 'mute' button, Saab? Push once to hear the missus, push one more time when you heard enough and want some music. Effing simple, you ask me. What exactly is wrong with a ‘mute’ button, Saab? Push once to hear the missus, push one more time when you heard enough and want some music. Effing simple, you ask me.

]]> By: Edonis http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/04/audio-controls-that-id-like-to-see-in-a-saab.html#comment-42638 Edonis Mon, 07 Apr 2008 21:01:12 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/04/audio-controls-that-id-like-to-see-in-a-saab.html#comment-42638 I'm not entirely convinced by most voice-controls I've tried. A friend of mine recently purchased an 08 C200K, and the Command-system can't always recognize what the driver is saying, so it is mostly used just to prank around. "Call nine-five-nine-zero-five-four-one-one".. and the system dials an entirely different number. "Navigation" and the system turns on the radio. I’m not entirely convinced by most voice-controls I’ve tried. A friend of mine recently purchased an 08 C200K, and the Command-system can’t always recognize what the driver is saying, so it is mostly used just to prank around. “Call nine-five-nine-zero-five-four-one-one”.. and the system dials an entirely different number. “Navigation” and the system turns on the radio.

]]> By: joemama http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/04/audio-controls-that-id-like-to-see-in-a-saab.html#comment-42635 joemama Mon, 07 Apr 2008 18:54:11 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/04/audio-controls-that-id-like-to-see-in-a-saab.html#comment-42635 David - I'm sure you could find a car that has a crank-start too! :) It would be nice to see voice integration as well, something along the lines of the ford Sync. The scroll wheel is a nice start, but Saab can do better than that. David – I’m sure you could find a car that has a crank-start too! :)

It would be nice to see voice integration as well, something along the lines of the ford Sync.

The scroll wheel is a nice start, but Saab can do better than that.

]]> By: trogg http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/04/audio-controls-that-id-like-to-see-in-a-saab.html#comment-42627 trogg Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:10:57 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/04/audio-controls-that-id-like-to-see-in-a-saab.html#comment-42627 I'd like to see the buttons programmble myself. driver controls on one side and cabin controls on the other. each cluster performs two basic tasks: select and modify. You could have single button. click right and left for incremental cycling through a list, click and hold right or left to scroll. click up or down incremental or click and hold up and down to scroll modify a value. Like a joystick without the stick. It would be a simple button with a back lit border. Doesn't need to be complicated. so for example if you had driver controls on the left you could have driving lights wipers cruise control SID displays mph,mpg, etc and on the right you could have cabin climate controls, audio, phone, and navigation. Of course you could flip the drive/cabin groups from right to left depending on your preference. The display could be in the dash or as part of a bilevel cluster. Ultimately it could be projected on the inside of the wind screen/shield. I know that Subaru disables control of the navigation unit while the car is in motion. I think this is needed although its a requirement that can be overcome with voice controls. "SAAB my back window is foggy" "SAAB play Iggy Pop Bulldozer" "SAAB find route to nearest Shell station" They have Trolltech right over in Norway to work on the user interface, and the hardware is available off the shelf. These are cars that cost 10's of thousand of dollars people expect more that gift shop egg timer that says "Hello Jan Erikson, prepare for take off." I’d like to see the buttons programmble myself. driver controls on one side and cabin controls on the other. each cluster performs two basic tasks: select and modify. You could have single button. click right and left for incremental cycling through a list, click and hold right or left to scroll. click up or down incremental or click and hold up and down to scroll modify a value. Like a joystick without the stick. It would be a simple button with a back lit border. Doesn’t need to be complicated.

so for example if you had driver controls on the left you could have
driving lights
wipers
cruise control
SID displays mph,mpg, etc

and on the right you could have cabin climate controls, audio, phone, and navigation.

Of course you could flip the drive/cabin groups from right to left depending on your preference.

The display could be in the dash or as part of a bilevel cluster. Ultimately it could be projected on the inside of the wind screen/shield.

I know that Subaru disables control of the navigation unit while the car is in motion. I think this is needed although its a requirement that can be overcome with voice controls.
“SAAB my back window is foggy”
“SAAB play Iggy Pop Bulldozer”
“SAAB find route to nearest Shell station”

They have Trolltech right over in Norway to work on the user interface, and the hardware is available off the shelf.

These are cars that cost 10′s of thousand of dollars people expect more that gift shop egg timer that says “Hello Jan Erikson, prepare for take off.”

]]> By: Jimmey http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/04/audio-controls-that-id-like-to-see-in-a-saab.html#comment-42621 Jimmey Mon, 07 Apr 2008 10:47:55 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/04/audio-controls-that-id-like-to-see-in-a-saab.html#comment-42621 If you look closely on the interior pictures of the 9-4x concept, you'll the scroll/jog controls on the steering wheel. So lets hope they'll make it to the production car. If you look closely on the interior pictures of the 9-4x concept, you’ll the scroll/jog controls on the steering wheel.
So lets hope they’ll make it to the production car.

]]> By: Markac http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/04/audio-controls-that-id-like-to-see-in-a-saab.html#comment-42620 Markac Mon, 07 Apr 2008 10:38:03 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/04/audio-controls-that-id-like-to-see-in-a-saab.html#comment-42620 I guess we'll see a variant of the Commodore controls in the new 9-5? They should appear in the 9-4x and the 9-1 too, but perhaps we'll never see that one? I guess we’ll see a variant of the Commodore controls in the new 9-5? They should appear in the 9-4x and the 9-1 too, but perhaps we’ll never see that one?

]]> By: Mark_Belfast http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/04/audio-controls-that-id-like-to-see-in-a-saab.html#comment-42616 Mark_Belfast Mon, 07 Apr 2008 08:02:33 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/04/audio-controls-that-id-like-to-see-in-a-saab.html#comment-42616 Yes, I had those same controls on the terrific little Vauxhall Astra Sri I surrendered to take on my 9-3SW. The jog wheel is brilliant and allowed you to toggle back and forth between that last tow sources (bit like a 'swap' button on your TV remote). By contrast Swade, my MY06 9-3 shares the tiny steps volume control issue as well as agonising gaps when you change 'source' between CD/radio/MP3. Also the traffic programming is hopelessly retarded - even if listening to the same station where the traffic announcement is being broadcast, the radio will be cut off as though you are going to another source before coming back to hear the last remaining seconds of the announcement you have now largely missed! I haven't tried the MYH07 onwards versions but gather the ents/comms are much improved? Yes, I had those same controls on the terrific little Vauxhall Astra Sri I surrendered to take on my 9-3SW. The jog wheel is brilliant and allowed you to toggle back and forth between that last tow sources (bit like a ‘swap’ button on your TV remote).
By contrast Swade, my MY06 9-3 shares the tiny steps volume control issue as well as agonising gaps when you change ‘source’ between CD/radio/MP3. Also the traffic programming is hopelessly retarded – even if listening to the same station where the traffic announcement is being broadcast, the radio will be cut off as though you are going to another source before coming back to hear the last remaining seconds of the announcement you have now largely missed! I haven’t tried the MYH07 onwards versions but gather the ents/comms are much improved?

]]> By: jwlanky http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/04/audio-controls-that-id-like-to-see-in-a-saab.html#comment-42615 jwlanky Mon, 07 Apr 2008 07:52:29 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/04/audio-controls-that-id-like-to-see-in-a-saab.html#comment-42615 The commodore controls are found on the Opel/Vauxhall. They do have a nice feel, but it would be better if they were a full jog/scroll wheel rather than up or down. The commodore controls are found on the Opel/Vauxhall. They do have a nice feel, but it would be better if they were a full jog/scroll wheel rather than up or down.

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