Comments on: It turns out my car might be a little bit special http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/01/it-turns-out-my-car-might-be-a-little-bit-special.html Saab 9-1, 9-3, 9-4x, 9-5, 9-7x News Thu, 11 Dec 2008 06:34:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Richard http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/01/it-turns-out-my-car-might-be-a-little-bit-special.html#comment-34269 Richard Mon, 07 Jan 2008 16:28:20 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/01/it-turns-out-my-car-might-be-a-little-bit-special.html#comment-34269 Hey Swade, when I had my 85 900 Turbo some years back, the same air mass meter was failing as well. My Saab mechanic (some 20+ years with Saab) said to go grab one from a wrecker. As long as that filament and connector is intact you should be fine. I picked one up at a wrecker for $30 and the car ran fine after that - saving me some $250 for a new one. Hey Swade, when I had my 85 900 Turbo some years back, the same air mass meter was failing as well. My Saab mechanic (some 20+ years with Saab) said to go grab one from a wrecker. As long as that filament and connector is intact you should be fine. I picked one up at a wrecker for $30 and the car ran fine after that – saving me some $250 for a new one.

]]> By: sab http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/01/it-turns-out-my-car-might-be-a-little-bit-special.html#comment-34250 sab Mon, 07 Jan 2008 09:20:19 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/01/it-turns-out-my-car-might-be-a-little-bit-special.html#comment-34250 yep they will run fine on unleaded with no additives at all as the turbo 900s (and n/a too i believe) have hardened valves, and have so since 1979. No need for upper end lubrication :) sab yep they will run fine on unleaded with no additives at all as the turbo 900s (and n/a too i believe) have hardened valves, and have so since 1979. No need for upper end lubrication :)

sab

]]> By: Swade http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/01/it-turns-out-my-car-might-be-a-little-bit-special.html#comment-34249 Swade Mon, 07 Jan 2008 09:18:24 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/01/it-turns-out-my-car-might-be-a-little-bit-special.html#comment-34249 Thanks sab, Hadn't thought of that. It runds on unleaded with no additives or anything, but it doesn't have the unleaded fuel filler gate. Thanks sab, Hadn’t thought of that. It runds on unleaded with no additives or anything, but it doesn’t have the unleaded fuel filler gate.

]]> By: sab http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/01/it-turns-out-my-car-might-be-a-little-bit-special.html#comment-34248 sab Mon, 07 Jan 2008 09:09:20 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/01/it-turns-out-my-car-might-be-a-little-bit-special.html#comment-34248 I believe that no 1985 900 Aero (nor any other variant of 900) had an o2 sensor as Australia was still on leaded petrol then. It wasn,t until 1986 that we got unleaded fuel, and thus we had o2 sensors fitted in the cars. I also believe (but don't quote me) that non-o2 sensor cars had no need for a check engine light... this was for cars running unleaded petrol only. Might be worth doing some research into that angle too? Damn nice car tho swadey... it was fun to drive when you were here in melbourne! sab I believe that no 1985 900 Aero (nor any other variant of 900) had an o2 sensor as Australia was still on leaded petrol then. It wasn,t until 1986 that we got unleaded fuel, and thus we had o2 sensors fitted in the cars. I also believe (but don’t quote me) that non-o2 sensor cars had no need for a check engine light… this was for cars running unleaded petrol only.

Might be worth doing some research into that angle too?

Damn nice car tho swadey… it was fun to drive when you were here in melbourne!

sab

]]> By: 1985 Gripen http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/01/it-turns-out-my-car-might-be-a-little-bit-special.html#comment-34238 1985 Gripen Mon, 07 Jan 2008 04:29:08 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/01/it-turns-out-my-car-might-be-a-little-bit-special.html#comment-34238 Swade: we can always stop by while you're here and pick up a rebuilt air mass meter. It might cost you less to buy one in the States and take it home w/ you. I've replaced mine before and they're not cheap, but they're not $700 here either! :-o A new (not rebuilt) one from thepartsbin.com goes for $250 but you have to trade-in your old one ($35 core fee). Eeuroparts.com is selling rebuilt ones for around $200 but you get $30 back for trading them your old one. Let me know ahead of time if you want to do this as I might have to order it to have it in time for you to be here later this week. I can inquire if there's a local storefront I can buy an air mass meter from, as my indie has a source, I believe. Swade: we can always stop by while you’re here and pick up a rebuilt air mass meter. It might cost you less to buy one in the States and take it home w/ you.

I’ve replaced mine before and they’re not cheap, but they’re not $700 here either! :-o

A new (not rebuilt) one from thepartsbin.com goes for $250 but you have to trade-in your old one ($35 core fee). Eeuroparts.com is selling rebuilt ones for around $200 but you get $30 back for trading them your old one. Let me know ahead of time if you want to do this as I might have to order it to have it in time for you to be here later this week. I can inquire if there’s a local storefront I can buy an air mass meter from, as my indie has a source, I believe.

]]> By: Saaboy http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/01/it-turns-out-my-car-might-be-a-little-bit-special.html#comment-34235 Saaboy Mon, 07 Jan 2008 03:02:26 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/01/it-turns-out-my-car-might-be-a-little-bit-special.html#comment-34235 Mr. Swade, this is when you start looking at other c900 parts cars and swiping MAFs off them :) Mr. Swade, this is when you start looking at other c900 parts cars and swiping MAFs off them :)

]]> By: swade http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/01/it-turns-out-my-car-might-be-a-little-bit-special.html#comment-34234 swade Mon, 07 Jan 2008 02:54:32 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/01/it-turns-out-my-car-might-be-a-little-bit-special.html#comment-34234 They're expensive, Ted, which is why Steve wanted to look it over first and make sure. A new one will set me back around $700 or so. Looks like I'm going to have keep tapping on that black box for a little while yet. They’re expensive, Ted, which is why Steve wanted to look it over first and make sure. A new one will set me back around $700 or so.

Looks like I’m going to have keep tapping on that black box for a little while yet.

]]> By: Tedjs http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/01/it-turns-out-my-car-might-be-a-little-bit-special.html#comment-34233 Tedjs Mon, 07 Jan 2008 02:21:35 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/01/it-turns-out-my-car-might-be-a-little-bit-special.html#comment-34233 Curious - how much does a Mass Airflow (MAF) sensor for an '85 cost? Those things have always been expensive, but it sure does sound like the problem. Maybe Matt could hook up a meter to the sensor output terminal for you and see if output goes to zero (or lower than normal airflow) when the part fails? I assume there is no scan tool data-stream on that car, but that would achieve the same effect. We used to do that on older vehicles to pinpoint intermittent problems - which was always fun. Curious – how much does a Mass Airflow (MAF) sensor for an ’85 cost? Those things have always been expensive, but it sure does sound like the problem.

Maybe Matt could hook up a meter to the sensor output terminal for you and see if output goes to zero (or lower than normal airflow) when the part fails? I assume there is no scan tool data-stream on that car, but that would achieve the same effect.

We used to do that on older vehicles to pinpoint intermittent problems – which was always fun.

]]> By: eggsngrits http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/01/it-turns-out-my-car-might-be-a-little-bit-special.html#comment-34232 eggsngrits Mon, 07 Jan 2008 02:17:23 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/01/it-turns-out-my-car-might-be-a-little-bit-special.html#comment-34232 Sounds like a mystery to be resolved! The C900 air mass meters can be problematic once they're a bit long in the tooth. The only real cure is to replace it unless there is something obvious fouling it. Vive la C900!! Sounds like a mystery to be resolved! The C900 air mass meters can be problematic once they’re a bit long in the tooth. The only real cure is to replace it unless there is something obvious fouling it.

Vive la C900!!

]]> By: cj http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/01/it-turns-out-my-car-might-be-a-little-bit-special.html#comment-34231 cj Mon, 07 Jan 2008 02:08:41 +0000 http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2008/01/it-turns-out-my-car-might-be-a-little-bit-special.html#comment-34231 Cool. Maybe you can trace it from the chasi number? They can not have had too many of them for the press.... Cool. Maybe you can trace it from the chasi number? They can not have had too many of them for the press….

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