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	<title>Comments on: Anthony Lo on the Saab 9-4x</title>
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		<title>By: ck1x</title>
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		<dc:creator>ck1x</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 19:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah, by the way think of the light pipes being like those tubular christmas rope lights you get from Lowes or K-mart not actual LED&#039;s. These will give of some heat but not to much since they are low wattage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah, by the way think of the light pipes being like those tubular christmas rope lights you get from Lowes or K-mart not actual LED&#8217;s. These will give of some heat but not to much since they are low wattage.</p>
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		<title>By: ck1x</title>
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		<dc:creator>ck1x</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 19:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Considering that this is only in concept form and Saab hasn&#039;t even begun to divulge the tech that is in this car, people are being very negative and judgemental upon it&#039;s reception. It&#039;s just a concept car people, I for one am very excited about  seeing GM give Saab some ground to creat truely beautiful products that scream Saab design. They really didn&#039;t mention anything about the keyless entry system or the Start/Stop push button ignition which we know it has also. If this is a sign of things to come then I for one am very excited about the future of Saab!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Considering that this is only in concept form and Saab hasn&#8217;t even begun to divulge the tech that is in this car, people are being very negative and judgemental upon it&#8217;s reception. It&#8217;s just a concept car people, I for one am very excited about  seeing GM give Saab some ground to creat truely beautiful products that scream Saab design. They really didn&#8217;t mention anything about the keyless entry system or the Start/Stop push button ignition which we know it has also. If this is a sign of things to come then I for one am very excited about the future of Saab!</p>
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		<title>By: David N.</title>
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		<dc:creator>David N.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great video.  Thanks Swade!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great video.  Thanks Swade!</p>
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		<title>By: MarkoA</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkoA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I forgot from the list - hatch! It would keep the rear window clean of snow and stuff naturally. THose small rearwipers are freaking hilarious. Like the one on SC. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I forgot from the list &#8211; hatch! It would keep the rear window clean of snow and stuff naturally. THose small rearwipers are freaking hilarious. Like the one on SC. <img src='http://www.trollhattansaab.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: MarkoA</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkoA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scandinavian design seems to mean only the look, nothing else. And even most of that is just plain talk. People here doesn´t design iceblocks for god´s sake. 

If it was designed to be really used in here, there would be options like: 
* heated windshield (like Ford has)
* heated windshield washers (Volvo´s got it) 
* headlamp washers with wipers (!)
* electric interior heater standard 
* engine block heater standard
* fuel operated cabin heater with remote control and programmable (SID) timer (like TiD´s)
* heated rear seat (Audi´s got it)
* heated steering wheel (I know, ridiculous, but oh so comfortable!)
* extra driving lights on the roofbars for bad conditions (Nissan X-trail)
* much more effective cabin heating system
* reverse lights on sides (like 9000 has)
* robust protection plate underneath the engine (c900´s got it - no need to be afraid driving over frosted snowblocks)
* doors like on C900 - you´ll keep your legs clean when getting out of a dirty car
* blowers to keep rear sidewindows clear from vapor (9000´s got it)
* Automatic transmission with winterdriving software (I think 9-5 has this option)
* fourwheel drive standard! (Important!)
*  upper edge of doors and the edge of roof should be copied from c900 - when you´ll open the door, snow - water etc will not drop inside the car and on driver´s seat
* turning front fog lights standard...

I really could go on. All I have to do is to think what  annoys me on these cars today. Especially on bad weather conditions, mostly during wintertime.
But these are really not for show, and nobody get´s interested if you´d show them on a car show. It´s lot more cooler to show nonfunctional ski holer and lights looking like iceblocks.

So, after all I´d say all the talk about being scandinavian designed is just talk. 
And again, sorry for the venting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scandinavian design seems to mean only the look, nothing else. And even most of that is just plain talk. People here doesn´t design iceblocks for god´s sake. </p>
<p>If it was designed to be really used in here, there would be options like:<br />
* heated windshield (like Ford has)<br />
* heated windshield washers (Volvo´s got it)<br />
* headlamp washers with wipers (!)<br />
* electric interior heater standard<br />
* engine block heater standard<br />
* fuel operated cabin heater with remote control and programmable (SID) timer (like TiD´s)<br />
* heated rear seat (Audi´s got it)<br />
* heated steering wheel (I know, ridiculous, but oh so comfortable!)<br />
* extra driving lights on the roofbars for bad conditions (Nissan X-trail)<br />
* much more effective cabin heating system<br />
* reverse lights on sides (like 9000 has)<br />
* robust protection plate underneath the engine (c900´s got it &#8211; no need to be afraid driving over frosted snowblocks)<br />
* doors like on C900 &#8211; you´ll keep your legs clean when getting out of a dirty car<br />
* blowers to keep rear sidewindows clear from vapor (9000´s got it)<br />
* Automatic transmission with winterdriving software (I think 9-5 has this option)<br />
* fourwheel drive standard! (Important!)<br />
*  upper edge of doors and the edge of roof should be copied from c900 &#8211; when you´ll open the door, snow &#8211; water etc will not drop inside the car and on driver´s seat<br />
* turning front fog lights standard&#8230;</p>
<p>I really could go on. All I have to do is to think what  annoys me on these cars today. Especially on bad weather conditions, mostly during wintertime.<br />
But these are really not for show, and nobody get´s interested if you´d show them on a car show. It´s lot more cooler to show nonfunctional ski holer and lights looking like iceblocks.</p>
<p>So, after all I´d say all the talk about being scandinavian designed is just talk.<br />
And again, sorry for the venting!</p>
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		<title>By: andy barnwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>andy barnwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>brilliant video swade but i wonder exactly what happens at the SAAB brand centre?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>brilliant video swade but i wonder exactly what happens at the SAAB brand centre?</p>
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		<title>By: MarkoA</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkoA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 05:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Few things I´ve been admiring about many smaller size SUV´s are mainly about functionality.

  I´ve said it many times - adjustable rear seats! Very important. Possibility to enhance rear legroom if needed, or increase luggage space in trunk. Adjustable backrest also! Large hatch. Now 9-4 has small door (smaller window) and very high loading height. Just like Landrover Freelander 2. It´s not practical in any ways. Everybody who´s had c900 knows what I mean. There´s no need for sliding plates when opening and height is right.

Rear seats MUST fold down totally flat, otherwise - no, no. 9-3SC is bad example. It´s not practical. You cannot lay there big bulky items since they might even damage the backrest because it´s not flat.

That Salomon guy must´ve been on dope when making design ideas if they´d come up with that sort of boot on 9-4X.

I guess I´ll go back to garage and start working again on my 900. And keep my mouth shut. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Few things I´ve been admiring about many smaller size SUV´s are mainly about functionality.</p>
<p>  I´ve said it many times &#8211; adjustable rear seats! Very important. Possibility to enhance rear legroom if needed, or increase luggage space in trunk. Adjustable backrest also! Large hatch. Now 9-4 has small door (smaller window) and very high loading height. Just like Landrover Freelander 2. It´s not practical in any ways. Everybody who´s had c900 knows what I mean. There´s no need for sliding plates when opening and height is right.</p>
<p>Rear seats MUST fold down totally flat, otherwise &#8211; no, no. 9-3SC is bad example. It´s not practical. You cannot lay there big bulky items since they might even damage the backrest because it´s not flat.</p>
<p>That Salomon guy must´ve been on dope when making design ideas if they´d come up with that sort of boot on 9-4X.</p>
<p>I guess I´ll go back to garage and start working again on my 900. And keep my mouth shut. <img src='http://www.trollhattansaab.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: zippy</title>
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		<dc:creator>zippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 04:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Firstly Swade, thanks for the video and Anthony Lo was very generous with his time.

I feel that I do have to comment on the debate about Saab&#039;s designed by Swedes. Scandinavians have a totally different approach to design, its always been &#039;form follows function&#039; as already pointed out and, IMHO, a Scandinavian should be designing Saabs. 

Scandinavian design is &#039;cold&#039; ie function is key and its form just comes out of that functionality. Look at the beautiful job done on the original 9-5 before someone - aka Michael Mauer - buggered it up. The 9-5 screamed Saab and took Saab up to the next level. The 03 9-3SS was designed by the same guy with some Mauer bits tacked on at the last minute and what we have now, in the 9-4X, is a non-Scandinavian Saab. The only thing I am not keen on is the 9-4Xs lack of sloping lines - everything seems a little too &#039;horizontal&#039; to me. Having said that, Saab sales are stagnant  and maybe it takes a non-Scandinavian to take Saab to the next level - as much as I hate to say it. 

This car seems to be attracting attention and  what with a baby Saab coming in Geneva this year is shaping up to be awesome!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firstly Swade, thanks for the video and Anthony Lo was very generous with his time.</p>
<p>I feel that I do have to comment on the debate about Saab&#8217;s designed by Swedes. Scandinavians have a totally different approach to design, its always been &#8216;form follows function&#8217; as already pointed out and, IMHO, a Scandinavian should be designing Saabs. </p>
<p>Scandinavian design is &#8216;cold&#8217; ie function is key and its form just comes out of that functionality. Look at the beautiful job done on the original 9-5 before someone &#8211; aka Michael Mauer &#8211; buggered it up. The 9-5 screamed Saab and took Saab up to the next level. The 03 9-3SS was designed by the same guy with some Mauer bits tacked on at the last minute and what we have now, in the 9-4X, is a non-Scandinavian Saab. The only thing I am not keen on is the 9-4Xs lack of sloping lines &#8211; everything seems a little too &#8216;horizontal&#8217; to me. Having said that, Saab sales are stagnant  and maybe it takes a non-Scandinavian to take Saab to the next level &#8211; as much as I hate to say it. </p>
<p>This car seems to be attracting attention and  what with a baby Saab coming in Geneva this year is shaping up to be awesome!</p>
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		<title>By: Pika</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 00:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gripen, Swade said in his &quot;9-4X will be good&quot; post that one of the buttons near gearshift was for the nightpanel. So maybe they are not eliminating it after all. And who knows, maybe NP turns off or at least dims down that green glow on acrylics too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gripen, Swade said in his &#8220;9-4X will be good&#8221; post that one of the buttons near gearshift was for the nightpanel. So maybe they are not eliminating it after all. And who knows, maybe NP turns off or at least dims down that green glow on acrylics too?</p>
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		<title>By: 1985 Gripen</title>
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		<dc:creator>1985 Gripen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 23:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark: I don&#039;t know about newer Saabs, but my wife&#039;s 2001 OG9-3 doesn&#039;t have heated seats either. It does have headlight wipers though. Coming from a C900 where the heated seats were standard I was disappointed that the OG9-3 didn&#039;t have the heated seats standard and since we were buying it CPO, I didn&#039;t have the option either way. Even though we live in Southern California where it doesn&#039;t get too cold, my wife, who always seems to be cold, complains about getting into her Saab in the morning and the leather seats are cold. She actually likes my cheap Chevy Impala more because the seats are cloth and don&#039;t get as cold! :-o

I think that dropping these standard features to option status was simply a cost-reduction process, but I&#039;d much rather see them make seat heaters standard again instead of stupid rain-sensing wipers. Who needs rain sensing wipers, anyway?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark: I don&#8217;t know about newer Saabs, but my wife&#8217;s 2001 OG9-3 doesn&#8217;t have heated seats either. It does have headlight wipers though. Coming from a C900 where the heated seats were standard I was disappointed that the OG9-3 didn&#8217;t have the heated seats standard and since we were buying it CPO, I didn&#8217;t have the option either way. Even though we live in Southern California where it doesn&#8217;t get too cold, my wife, who always seems to be cold, complains about getting into her Saab in the morning and the leather seats are cold. She actually likes my cheap Chevy Impala more because the seats are cloth and don&#8217;t get as cold! <img src='http://www.trollhattansaab.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':-o' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I think that dropping these standard features to option status was simply a cost-reduction process, but I&#8217;d much rather see them make seat heaters standard again instead of stupid rain-sensing wipers. Who needs rain sensing wipers, anyway?</p>
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