Comments on: Epsilon II coming – Opel Insignia

By: eggsngrits

eggsngrits — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 23:53:00 +0000

Mike is right. We are Saab homers, and it shows a lot of the time. Opel, Caddy and Chevy hold sway — Chevy outsells Saab by 80 fold. Literally.

By: Mike

Mike — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 22:41:02 +0000

Are you people stupid, or what? Opel Vectra is crushing Saab 9-5 in all car tests and it is in the top among cars when it comes to quality. It outsells Saab by a factor 20. Of course GM wants to release the top brand first!

By: Jeff

Jeff — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 02:17:21 +0000

The reason that Epsilon II is being rolled out on the cheap mass-market marques first is so GM can work out any unforseen kinks before they make it to the nicer brands. It makes perfect sense. Would you rather your Saab have Epsilon II growing pains, or would you rather have some other guy’s Opel have them so they can be fixed before they finalize production on your Saab?

By: Greg Abbott

Greg Abbott — Fri, 30 Nov 2007 01:56:58 +0000

What a boring name for a car – “Insignia”

The definition of insignia is “emblem.” Synonyms include “badge” “mark” and “decoration.”

How about that Opel Emblem? Great car, eh?

By: WooDz

WooDz — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:53:11 +0000

Sorry TuuSar,
Your comment seems to lead that the current 9-3 is already built in Rüsselshiem. It is not. And It will not move to Germany next year either. The facts still remain… The current 9-3 sedan and combi can only be built at Trollhättan. Production will only move to Opel’s main Plant once the new models come to fruit. This means that both 9-3 and 9-5 will continue to be built in Sweden until mid 2009 when only production of the 9-5 will be shifted to Rüsselshiem. This means that Trollhättan will be producing the current 9-3 until at least 2011.

By: jwlanky

jwlanky — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:33:29 +0000

I forgot the new 93 will be built in Germany. What a crap decision that was.

By: TuuSaR

TuuSaR — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:49:26 +0000

When Opel is first, it will be hit by more problems than Saab.

And making Saab few months earlier really doesnt help the big picture, Saab is made in Germany, at the same plant as Opel. If somebody wants to say that Saab is 100% Opel, there’s plenty of ammo already.

Also I dont think there will be major market entry time difference between this “insignia” and new 9-5.

By: jwlanky

jwlanky — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:09:21 +0000

It beats me why GM dont roll out the Saab with the EpsilonII chassis first (with whatever else new technology they have to throw in), and then roll it out on the Opel/Vauxhall junk.

Saab would benefit greatly from not being tarred with the line ‘..it uses the vectra/insignia chassis’ and the Vectra/insignia would benefit from having ‘the chassis from the Saab’.

It may seem trivial but i think both brand images would benefit greatly from the roll out reversal.

By: wilfried

wilfried — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:14:03 +0000

Sorry swade & swedes, info at this link is in german (but that’s more readable than swedish):
http://www.autobild.de/artikel/Themen-News-Insignia-loest-Vectra-ab_460468.html
The name Insignia was used already for the concept-car in 2003:
http://www.diseno-art.com/encyclopedia/concept_cars/opel_insignia.html
That one shares a bit of general form with the 9-5 replacement photoshopped hatchback picts that occured on this site earlier.

So is opel going to get the primeur or will saab have it ?

By: WooDz

WooDz — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:09:17 +0000

How pathetic…
2 minutess of crap for a set of headlights!
Oh lets just copy Renault… pfff
Has GM ever thought of creating something that’s actually new and innovative. Or do they Have to steal everybody else’s ideas.
Have you lot read the blurb that whet with this video.
At one point I was wondering whether this was a Saab they were launching. with comments like
sophisticated powertrain technology.
active safety.
environmental friendliness is unrivaled even among considerably more expensive competitors.

One could get confused.

Then add; that this new fantastic piece of equipment will have Turbo charged Bio-ethanol engines. 180hp Twin Turbo Diesels and AWD 2.8V6 engines and I feel Saab yet again are getting sold out!
We have Astra Coupe’s with Panoramic Roofs, 260hp 2.0Di Turbo Engines while the new 9-3 just gets the same old engine, and while Saab still have to offer an outdated 1.8i 122hp, OPEL have a great new 140hp version. God talk about letting Saab rot….
It’s just a huge whack of insult to the engineers who created this stuff for GM to not let Saab use it.
What a load of Crap!
I hate OPEL
the managers are a bunch of thieving bastards who should be subjected to very slow and painful deaths for abusing Saab in the way they have for the past years.