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	<title>Comments on: Gripen at the SOC &#8211; Part 1</title>
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		<title>By: 1985 Gripen</title>
		<link>http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2007/08/gripen-at-the-soc-part-1.html#comment-18623</link>
		<dc:creator>1985 Gripen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 05:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to all for the kind words as always.

joemama: Bluetooth is a touchy subject. It&#039;s a political thing I think. As you probably already know it&#039;s not an issue in Europe, but here in the States because GM also owns OnStar, I believe it&#039;s seen as a competitor to some of OnStar&#039;s features and is therefore not available. Nobody&#039;s said so much, but I&#039;m guessing that GM requires SAAB to disable Bluetooth in lieu of OnStar.

For those of you saying that I should work for SAAB USA, I&#039;d love to but I highly doubt I can convince my wife to relocate from Southern California to Michigan even if it were offered! :-P

TimJ: I got a better clarification out of Mr. Shannon tonight you&#039;ll see in an upcoming post I just sent to Swade regarding the ethanol issue.

Psycho Dave: thanks for the update on APC. Mr. Vester told me it was 1984, but I suspected it was before that. I knew it was sometime after &#039;81 as I used to own a non-APC &#039;81 900T sedan!

andybarnwell: regarding Fritz Henderson: I concur with Greg Abbott&#039;s assessment. It&#039;s nice that he showed-up, but he was basically preaching to the choir regarding SAAB. He was recounting what SAAB is and what it stands for. I kept thinking to myself (and I hope like heck he&#039;s not reading this...) that I wonder if Bob Lutz or Rick Waggoner were asked first and declined and he was the third choice. I mean, the convention was in GM&#039;s backyard, it&#039;s not like it would have been too far out of the way for Mr. Lutz or Mr. Wagonner if they were in-town...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to all for the kind words as always.</p>
<p>joemama: Bluetooth is a touchy subject. It&#8217;s a political thing I think. As you probably already know it&#8217;s not an issue in Europe, but here in the States because GM also owns OnStar, I believe it&#8217;s seen as a competitor to some of OnStar&#8217;s features and is therefore not available. Nobody&#8217;s said so much, but I&#8217;m guessing that GM requires SAAB to disable Bluetooth in lieu of OnStar.</p>
<p>For those of you saying that I should work for SAAB USA, I&#8217;d love to but I highly doubt I can convince my wife to relocate from Southern California to Michigan even if it were offered! <img src='http://www.trollhattansaab.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>TimJ: I got a better clarification out of Mr. Shannon tonight you&#8217;ll see in an upcoming post I just sent to Swade regarding the ethanol issue.</p>
<p>Psycho Dave: thanks for the update on APC. Mr. Vester told me it was 1984, but I suspected it was before that. I knew it was sometime after &#8217;81 as I used to own a non-APC &#8217;81 900T sedan!</p>
<p>andybarnwell: regarding Fritz Henderson: I concur with Greg Abbott&#8217;s assessment. It&#8217;s nice that he showed-up, but he was basically preaching to the choir regarding SAAB. He was recounting what SAAB is and what it stands for. I kept thinking to myself (and I hope like heck he&#8217;s not reading this&#8230;) that I wonder if Bob Lutz or Rick Waggoner were asked first and declined and he was the third choice. I mean, the convention was in GM&#8217;s backyard, it&#8217;s not like it would have been too far out of the way for Mr. Lutz or Mr. Wagonner if they were in-town&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Swade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 02:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott, I&#039;m guessing here, but I think that was referring to the SportCombis that were shipped on the model&#039;s initial debut.  According to SaabUSA&#039;s site, Iceblocks will be standard for the SportCombi in 2008.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott, I&#8217;m guessing here, but I think that was referring to the SportCombis that were shipped on the model&#8217;s initial debut.  According to SaabUSA&#8217;s site, Iceblocks will be standard for the SportCombi in 2008.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Bachmeier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Bachmeier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 02:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the first batch of 9-3 SportCombis mistakenly were shipped to the States with the non-DOT spec European taillights&quot; -- OK. now I&#039;m confused again: does that mean that the 9-3 SportCombis are NOT getting the &quot;iceblock&quot; tail lamps after all in the US?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the first batch of 9-3 SportCombis mistakenly were shipped to the States with the non-DOT spec European taillights&#8221; &#8212; OK. now I&#8217;m confused again: does that mean that the 9-3 SportCombis are NOT getting the &#8220;iceblock&#8221; tail lamps after all in the US?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 01:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those crazy winds and stuff destroyed a bunch of Corvettes &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.autoblog.com/2007/08/27/severe-thunderstorms-attack-corvettes-at-carlisle/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;over at Carlisle.&lt;/a&gt;

*cries self to sleep</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those crazy winds and stuff destroyed a bunch of Corvettes <a href="http://www.autoblog.com/2007/08/27/severe-thunderstorms-attack-corvettes-at-carlisle/" rel="nofollow">over at Carlisle.</a></p>
<p>*cries self to sleep</p>
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		<title>By: andy barnwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>andy barnwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 19:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank s Gregg for the fritz henderson info and thanks to Gripen for the coverage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank s Gregg for the fritz henderson info and thanks to Gripen for the coverage.</p>
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		<title>By: saab9x</title>
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		<dc:creator>saab9x</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 18:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good coverage 1985 Gripen!  you&#039;re doing an outstanding job;  and good nuance material, too.

kudos to Greg Abbott, as well!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good coverage 1985 Gripen!  you&#8217;re doing an outstanding job;  and good nuance material, too.</p>
<p>kudos to Greg Abbott, as well!</p>
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		<title>By: Tedjs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tedjs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 15:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great job on this post!

To comment on one of those questions/responses on the V6 as a marketing strategy - I love that 2.8L V6 as it just sings all the way to its 6200RPM fuel shutoff. Not sure if I would enjoy a four cylinder as much - but I only spent a short time test driving one when I looked at my car.

At any rate - it was a huge selling point for me to have one available. I like the Ecotec, but...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great job on this post!</p>
<p>To comment on one of those questions/responses on the V6 as a marketing strategy &#8211; I love that 2.8L V6 as it just sings all the way to its 6200RPM fuel shutoff. Not sure if I would enjoy a four cylinder as much &#8211; but I only spent a short time test driving one when I looked at my car.</p>
<p>At any rate &#8211; it was a huge selling point for me to have one available. I like the Ecotec, but&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Abbott</title>
		<link>http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2007/08/gripen-at-the-soc-part-1.html#comment-18586</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Abbott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 15:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fritz Henderson spoke for 10 minutes at the awards banquet on Saturday night.  His comments were encouraging and upbeat, but disappointingly generic.  If you have ever spent time at the GM Fastlane corporate blog, you have the flavor of the speech, only with less specific content.  

The fact he was there at all is still an important thing.  He did say his wife is now driving her fourth Saab in a row, and she turned him down flat when he suggested she get an Escalade instead (which prompted some slight, but good-natured, booing -- which he took in stride, remarking with good humor &quot;I&#039;ve got a bunch of other brands I&#039;m responsible for, too.&quot;). 

GM&#039;s big SUV&#039;s came up briefly later, and he defended them, saying they are &quot;great vehicles -- but they&#039;re not Saabs.&quot;  

He also talked about the &quot;Q&quot; word - &quot;quirky.&quot;  Which he noted can be used in one of two ways -- annoying or endearing.  And that Saab&#039;s uniqueness has been endearing.  And that GM is committed to keeping Saab&#039;s uniquely &quot;endearing&quot; qualities intact.  

For what it was, it was an OK speech. His mistake was not attempting to engage his audience at their level of sophistication and knowledge about the brand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fritz Henderson spoke for 10 minutes at the awards banquet on Saturday night.  His comments were encouraging and upbeat, but disappointingly generic.  If you have ever spent time at the GM Fastlane corporate blog, you have the flavor of the speech, only with less specific content.  </p>
<p>The fact he was there at all is still an important thing.  He did say his wife is now driving her fourth Saab in a row, and she turned him down flat when he suggested she get an Escalade instead (which prompted some slight, but good-natured, booing &#8212; which he took in stride, remarking with good humor &#8220;I&#8217;ve got a bunch of other brands I&#8217;m responsible for, too.&#8221;). </p>
<p>GM&#8217;s big SUV&#8217;s came up briefly later, and he defended them, saying they are &#8220;great vehicles &#8212; but they&#8217;re not Saabs.&#8221;  </p>
<p>He also talked about the &#8220;Q&#8221; word &#8211; &#8220;quirky.&#8221;  Which he noted can be used in one of two ways &#8212; annoying or endearing.  And that Saab&#8217;s uniqueness has been endearing.  And that GM is committed to keeping Saab&#8217;s uniquely &#8220;endearing&#8221; qualities intact.  </p>
<p>For what it was, it was an OK speech. His mistake was not attempting to engage his audience at their level of sophistication and knowledge about the brand.</p>
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		<title>By: gryphon</title>
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		<dc:creator>gryphon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 13:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gripen, 

Thanks for the amazingly detailed write up!  The SAAB community owes you BIG for attending and reporting for all of us who could not go.  I read every word TWICE just to make sure that I didn&#039;t miss a detail.  Personally, I cannot wait to see the new MY 2008 in person. I envy you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gripen, </p>
<p>Thanks for the amazingly detailed write up!  The SAAB community owes you BIG for attending and reporting for all of us who could not go.  I read every word TWICE just to make sure that I didn&#8217;t miss a detail.  Personally, I cannot wait to see the new MY 2008 in person. I envy you.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 12:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great coverage! Thanks for spending your free time with the updates. I, for one, would not like a single detail to be left out so please don&#039;t edit yourself too much!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great coverage! Thanks for spending your free time with the updates. I, for one, would not like a single detail to be left out so please don&#8217;t edit yourself too much!</p>
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