Saab Service and Repair Stuff (part 2)

Following on from Ronald’s question about how expensive it is to repair and maintain your Saab, we had our 1994 Saab 9000 CS in for its 200,000km service today. The 200,000 service is a relatively big one, with a bunch of filters scheduled for changing.

For Ronald’s benefit, and for anyone who cares to compare, here’s how it broke down. All figures are in Aussie dollars.

Saab air filter – $34.85
“Filter EFI” – $30.21
Spark Plugs – $20.68
Pollen Filter – $75.50
Transmission Oil – $55.55
Rocker Cover Bush – $2.33
PCV Valve – $29.99
Vacuum Hose – $1.37
Transmission Filter – $35.00
Turbo feed pipe – $70.00
Service and Check – $175.00
GST (VAT) – $53.06

Total – $583.55

For the amount of work done, I’m not too disappointed with that. I was actually expecting it to be a little more. Actually, we had a little bit of stuff done prior to me going to Sweden, which is hy there’s no engine oil on this list, so I suppose it was a little more in the end.

This is the most a service has ever cost with this car and primarily because of the extra bits that had to be replaced. The car drove beautifully on the way home, so I figure it made a difference.

Another 2008 9-3 test

UK motoring service 4car has written up its thoughts on the 2008 Saab 9-3, though this is the first review I’ve seen that focuses on the Convertible.

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They conduct their reviews using a number of categories (maximises their page views, you see) and highlights from each are as follows:

Reliability and Quality:
Saab seems to have got on top of the problems that affected early 9-3s…..Saabs have always been tough and rugged, going on to very high mileages and this new 9-3 should be no exception.

Image:
Exterior detailing has been tidied up, and it looks as good top-up as top-down – one advantage of its fabric roof is that it stows away in a smaller space, allowing for a more elegant rear end than that of the so-called coupe-convertibles with folding metal roofs.

Driving:
The Saab combination of powerful, turbocharged engines and a carefully-honed, well-balanced chassis make for a very different and more relaxed experience than that offered by, say, a rear-wheel-drive 3-Series

Performance:
The 180bhp TTiD engine is, in many ways, the most impressive…it is highly refined, with no trace of turbo lag, no clatter and none of the traditional disadvantages of diesels.

Safety and Security:
Saab has always stressed that it designs its cars to survive well in real-life accidents as well as laboratory conditions. This is consistently backed by statistics from all over the world…

Running Costs:
Saab dealers don’t tend to be the cheapest around, but prices for servicing and parts are more affordable than at BMW, Audi and Mercedes franchises. There are also a number of very well-respected independent specialists.

Comfort and Equipment:
General refinement is very good: wind, engine and tyre noise are all well-contained and there are no traces of squeaks, rattles or other annoyances, even in the first new-generation cars off the Trollhattan production line.

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hat tip to padam for the link!

Saab service and repair stuff

Two points here:

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Firstly, via email from Ronald:


I’m considering to purchase a 1988 Saab 9000 for my first car but I don’t know much about car mechanics.

I’ve heard from some people that maintenance cost for Saabs is expensive if I don’t know how to do the service myself, is this true?

I’m with you, Ronald, in that my car shudders if I so much as think about picking up a spanner. I’ve had to pay people to do 99% of the work on my car since, well, forever. As a matter of fact, our 1994 Saab 9000 is in for its 200,000km service today, so I’ll let you know how it goes.

Whilst Saab parts aren’t the cheapest around, they’re not the most expensive either. I’ve owned two Toyotas in my deep dark past and they certainly weren’t cheap when things went wrong. I’ve found that for your common items like hoses etc that Saabs are pretty much on par with most manufacturers. If it’s a big item that goes ‘bang’, well then you’re up for a bit more than a local car (assuming you’re not in Sweden, which if you were I’d have hought you wouldn’t need to write this).

Get a car with a good history and maintain it regularly and you maximise your chances of not having to cough up for anything major.

Anyone else’s experiences are welcome in comments.

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And Aussie Saab owner emailed me today about an online survey he was asked to complete recently. It covered any recent genuine Saab servicing he’d had done and there was reportedly plenty of room for extended feedback about the experience.

As he pointed out to me in the email, the interesting thing is that while the intro etc was from Saab Australia, the survey originated out of the UK, hopefully an indicator of a global effort to look into service standards and customer feedback.

Anyone else done one of these recently?

Thursday Snippets

Ok, time for another quick rant on Consumer Reports. As long-time lurkers here will know I don’t necessarily agree with their methods or their findings.

First, watch the video on this page.

For those of you that couldn’t be bothered, the video is about developments on cars that aren’t quite developed enough. One of the things they think should go back to the drawing board is the cruise control switch on the Mercedes R-Class. The cruise control lever is located just above the indicator stalk, and the contention is that you could mistakenly speed the car up by lifting the cruise stalk instead of the indicator stalk.

Sure, it wouldn’t hurt to put the cruise stalk somewhere else, but did Consumer Reports consider the following: Should you be using your indicators at all whilst you’ve got cruise control on? And won’t it only speed the car up if cruise is actually engaged?

CR contend that a mistake could occur where you speed the car up instead of signalling a right turn. Ok, you may have cruise control engaged and need to change lanes on a highway and speed up a little by mistake, which should be easily recoverable if you have a heartbeat and your eyes are open.

But if you’ve got cruise on and you’re looking to do a right turn with cruise still engaged then you probably shouldn’t be driving. It’s not the location of the cruise stalk that’s dangerous, it’s the fact that you’re on the road at all that’s dangerous.

I think there’s a limit to how idiot-proof cars should become. If you’re that much of an idiot then being licenced to drive shouldn’t be automatic. Being licenced is a privelege, not a right.

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The 2008 Saab 9-3 comes with a lot of significant developments, chief among them being the new twin-turbo diesel powerplant and the development of XWD.

The cost?

These are also going to be available on the Cadillac BLS. Autoweek.nl report that both the TTiD engine and XWD will coming on their BLS from next year.

I guess we’ve got to keep the delusion running that Caddy has a future in order for Saab to have one, so Go Caddy, Go! Go anywhere but here!

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This is the Saab Expressions website as viewed on a Safari browser today:

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Seems like there’s some code problems there, folks. I know just the guys to fix it, and maybe refresh the look a bit too.

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You might remember Tim from my Sweden photos. He had the blue coloring in the his-n-hers color coded Viggens.

Well, knowing that there’s some people interested in aviation hanging around Saabs, I thought those of you with a mind to do so might like to follow Tim’s adventures as he trains to get licenced for flying the Airbus A320.

He’s at a flight school in Brussels at the moment and is documenting the process in photo, video and blog format. The main site link is here and apparently the A320 is “almost impossible to crash”, which is good to hear.

One of Tim’s own pilot jokes:

How will you know if there’s a pilot in the room at a party?

Don’t worry, he’ll tell you.

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And speaking of Sweden, a note to Rickard……

I saw my first Australian 9-5 Griffin yesterday, just one block from my office right here in Hobart!!

Saab 96 – one wanted, one for sale

I received an email around a week ago from an Australian guy in Italy who’s looking to buy an older Saab. Did I have any leads on any for sale?

I don’t actually know of any specific ones for sale, but as I’ve got to know a number of people out there through this site, I said I’d check it out. I didn’t know what sort of ‘older Saab’ he was interested in, however.

It turns out he’s thinking of a 2-stroker Saab 96. And he’s willing to travel for it.

If any of you European types know of a 2-stroker for sale, please shoot me an email and let’s see if we can put one of these now-rare machines into some caring hands.

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Drew B alerted me to this Saab 96 for sale on Ebay in the UK. As of last night it was going for only 50GBP, though there seems to be a fair bit of interest according to the questions being emailed to the seller and the price has now risen to over 100GBP.

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It’s a Saab 96 Souvenir Edition, one of 150 made for the UK market in the late 1970s. Drew’s actually got one in his driveway, which is long overdue for filming. Perhaps when the weather around here is a little less English.

Ivan Brings Back the Hatch!!!

UPDATE below!

NOW A SECOND UPDATE TOO!

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Ivan, my T-shirt partner and fellow Viggen owner, has employed his photoshop skills to the new Saab 9-3.

Here’s his work in 3-door and 5-door guises.

BRING BACK THE HATCH!!

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UPDATE: Lots of comments on these and while I was sleeping, Ivan responded with a tweaked 3-door appearing in my inbox this morning.

The doors have been slightly elongated.

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Jeff K has taken the updated 3-door and done some tweaking of his own, shortening some body sections, lowering the bumpers and adding an all-important Viggen badge, amongst other things.

Cool.

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UrSaab pics

During my time in Trollhattan, one of the things I really wanted to do was photograph the interior of UrSaab.

I hung around a lot at the Saab Museum in few days before the Saab Festival started. UrSaab was in it’s glassed off area. I approached the museum curator, Peter Backstrom at one point and got “the hand”. Peter was understandably busy as the organiser of the entire festival.

I went through the next few days thinking it wouldn’t be possible and became resigned to the fact.

On the final day of the festival, a lot of the vintage cars were taken out of the museum for a run around in front of all gathered. UrSaab was one of these and for a while it was parked outside next to the museum. The driver’s side window was open, but I wanted to get a full shot of the dash, which is best done from the passenger side. The passenger side window was closed however, resulting in this shot:

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I’m not particularly proud of what I did next, but I got my “I came half way around the world for this” mentality on. As the car was unllocked, I quickly opened the door and snapped off this one interior shot. Another guy came up and asked me to hold it open so he could do the same and as I closed it afterwards, I got a quite righteous and deserved telling off from a security guy – in Swedish. He could tell by my sheepish and perplexed look that I didn’t have a clue so he repeated the dose in English, finishing with “These are the rules”.

I got my telling off, but I also got my picture. It and a few other UrSaab detail shots follow.

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That 9-5 plate

I posted a link to this photo in an article about Future Saabs last night…

John, in a brief moment when he wasn’t busy filling your many orders at Elkparts, did a little digging and found that that particular 9-5 number plate is actually unused and available!

So if you’re in the UK and you’ve got a paticular (and slightly wacky) desire to have a Saab plate before the model it was shown on comes to be a reality, here’s the link you need.

If the next 9-5 actually ends up looking like that, you could transfer the plate to your new 9-5 and tell everyone how your car was featured in Car Magazine!!