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	<title>Comments on: Four Wheel Drive this Sunday??</title>
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	<description>Saab 9-1, 9-3, 9-4x, 9-5, 9-7x News</description>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
		<link>http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2007/06/four_wheel_driv.html#comment-13596</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 00:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys, this is more like it.  See http://www.egmcartech.com/2007/01/12/saab-9-1-to-take-on-bmw-1-series-audi-a3-volvo-c30/

..much better than the abomination forward profile of the MY08!  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys, this is more like it.  See <a href="http://www.egmcartech.com/2007/01/12/saab-9-1-to-take-on-bmw-1-series-audi-a3-volvo-c30/" rel="nofollow">http://www.egmcartech.com/2007/01/12/saab-9-1-to-take-on-bmw-1-series-audi-a3-volvo-c30/</a></p>
<p>..much better than the abomination forward profile of the MY08!</p>
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		<title>By: Caig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 00:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...Bobby, exactly.  &#039;nuff said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;Bobby, exactly.  &#8217;nuff said.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby</title>
		<link>http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2007/06/four_wheel_driv.html#comment-13594</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 08:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hoped Saab could release new models soon rather than sorry-no-money-super-facelifts-again-models.

Yeah, they looked great. That&#039;s it. BTW, why can&#039;t manufacturers go with something else rather than the &#039;look-at-me-i&#039;m-angry&#039; looks ? ALl manufacturers seems to be adopting the &#039;i&#039;ll-scare-the-shit-out-of-you-look-when-i-pull-up&#039; looks....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hoped Saab could release new models soon rather than sorry-no-money-super-facelifts-again-models.</p>
<p>Yeah, they looked great. That&#8217;s it. BTW, why can&#8217;t manufacturers go with something else rather than the &#8216;look-at-me-i&#8217;m-angry&#8217; looks ? ALl manufacturers seems to be adopting the &#8216;i&#8217;ll-scare-the-shit-out-of-you-look-when-i-pull-up&#8217; looks&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: MJL</title>
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		<dc:creator>MJL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 08:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ruined!  
Re: the photos: Thanks Swade!  Hope you&#039;re having a great time.  I&#039;m here in Deutschland for the the first time, I finally get to see the Sport Combi with clear tail lights in the flesh.  Fantastic!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ruined!<br />
Re: the photos: Thanks Swade!  Hope you&#8217;re having a great time.  I&#8217;m here in Deutschland for the the first time, I finally get to see the Sport Combi with clear tail lights in the flesh.  Fantastic!</p>
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		<title>By: Sylle</title>
		<link>http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2007/06/four_wheel_driv.html#comment-13592</link>
		<dc:creator>Sylle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 03:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quote Kaz:
&quot;Still no idea what those mini three LED&#039;s do. Fog lights along with the two normal fog lights perhaps?&quot;

Kaz,
Those three LED&#039;s on the front are probably just like the three LED&#039;s you can see on the back of the 9-3 Sportcombi (http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/6715/dscn2080800qk4.jpg).
They will probably replace the ugly front amber and aft red american corner lights now that the black strip in the bumpers are gone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quote Kaz:<br />
&#8220;Still no idea what those mini three LED&#8217;s do. Fog lights along with the two normal fog lights perhaps?&#8221;</p>
<p>Kaz,<br />
Those three LED&#8217;s on the front are probably just like the three LED&#8217;s you can see on the back of the 9-3 Sportcombi (<a href="http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/6715/dscn2080800qk4.jpg)" rel="nofollow">http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/6715/dscn2080800qk4.jpg)</a>.<br />
They will probably replace the ugly front amber and aft red american corner lights now that the black strip in the bumpers are gone.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 02:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, damn those vulgar American cars.  *glare

Why have a ragtop?  Well, two reasons:  First, hardtops are fad-of-the-week and ugly as sin when up, while ragtops have always looked great on pretty much any car.  Second, there are tons of warm places in Europe to drive a ragtop around in, including Sweden.  Guess what the lowest tempurature recorded in Svenska was yesterday?  49 degrees.  Positive 49.  Sweden isn&#039;t as cold as you think it is.  Most of the tempuratures yesterday were in the mid 70s, and many were in the 80s.  Good convertible weather, I think.  The point is, the weather in Sweden is about the same as it is here (except in the northern extremes, but you wouldn&#039;t drive a vert around in Alaska, either), so ragtops make just as much sense there as they do here, and they will always always always look better than a snobby hardtop.

Unless it&#039;s a lift-off hardtop, but I doubt Saab will adopt those any time soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, damn those vulgar American cars.  *glare</p>
<p>Why have a ragtop?  Well, two reasons:  First, hardtops are fad-of-the-week and ugly as sin when up, while ragtops have always looked great on pretty much any car.  Second, there are tons of warm places in Europe to drive a ragtop around in, including Sweden.  Guess what the lowest tempurature recorded in Svenska was yesterday?  49 degrees.  Positive 49.  Sweden isn&#8217;t as cold as you think it is.  Most of the tempuratures yesterday were in the mid 70s, and many were in the 80s.  Good convertible weather, I think.  The point is, the weather in Sweden is about the same as it is here (except in the northern extremes, but you wouldn&#8217;t drive a vert around in Alaska, either), so ragtops make just as much sense there as they do here, and they will always always always look better than a snobby hardtop.</p>
<p>Unless it&#8217;s a lift-off hardtop, but I doubt Saab will adopt those any time soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 20:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The more i look at this, the more i believe my initial instincts were right.

Perhaps the Germans had a hand in the design but i have a sneaking suspicion this (frnt profile) is their payback to Sweden for being neutral in WW2.

On the convertible, why why why would you have a rag top in a country like Sweden or Europe for that matter.  The only thing i really find appealing on MY08 so far (of the changes) are the engines.

It would be sweet if i could get the Biopower engine in the current MY07.  No vulgar American style influences.


.....had to get it out of my system...better now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more i look at this, the more i believe my initial instincts were right.</p>
<p>Perhaps the Germans had a hand in the design but i have a sneaking suspicion this (frnt profile) is their payback to Sweden for being neutral in WW2.</p>
<p>On the convertible, why why why would you have a rag top in a country like Sweden or Europe for that matter.  The only thing i really find appealing on MY08 so far (of the changes) are the engines.</p>
<p>It would be sweet if i could get the Biopower engine in the current MY07.  No vulgar American style influences.</p>
<p>&#8230;..had to get it out of my system&#8230;better now.</p>
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		<title>By: saab9x</title>
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		<dc:creator>saab9x</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 17:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mmm...light pipes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mmm&#8230;light pipes.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Y</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted Y</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 15:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About the clear tail lights in the USA, are they really not legal in the USA, or is Saab misinterpreting DOT regulations? I was behind a brand new Mitsubishi Eclipse convertible on the way home with clear tail lights. Car still had the temp tags on it and certainly wasn&#039;t modified (young woman driving). I took a picture with my cell phone which came out pretty bad, but it&#039;s just like the tail lights on their web site. If they can do it, why can&#039;t Saab?
I know the DOT requires a red lens, but can&#039;t the lens be proximate to the light source with the clear ice-like covers outside that? That&#039;s kinda how it looked on the Eclipse. I don&#039;t think the DOT objects to clear covers. I did notice the Eclipse had a very small unobtrusive red rectangle toward the side of the lights. Was that to satisfy the DOT? 
I think Saab could bring them to the USA if they wanted to. Just my 2 cents worth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About the clear tail lights in the USA, are they really not legal in the USA, or is Saab misinterpreting DOT regulations? I was behind a brand new Mitsubishi Eclipse convertible on the way home with clear tail lights. Car still had the temp tags on it and certainly wasn&#8217;t modified (young woman driving). I took a picture with my cell phone which came out pretty bad, but it&#8217;s just like the tail lights on their web site. If they can do it, why can&#8217;t Saab?<br />
I know the DOT requires a red lens, but can&#8217;t the lens be proximate to the light source with the clear ice-like covers outside that? That&#8217;s kinda how it looked on the Eclipse. I don&#8217;t think the DOT objects to clear covers. I did notice the Eclipse had a very small unobtrusive red rectangle toward the side of the lights. Was that to satisfy the DOT?<br />
I think Saab could bring them to the USA if they wanted to. Just my 2 cents worth.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 15:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...i seems to be more pronounced in the silver colour.

I think its the semi-circular shape on top which gives the &#039;flat-top&#039; appearance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;i seems to be more pronounced in the silver colour.</p>
<p>I think its the semi-circular shape on top which gives the &#8216;flat-top&#8217; appearance.</p>
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