Comments on: More Aero-X http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2006/02/more_aerox.html Saab 9-1, 9-3, 9-4x, 9-5, 9-7x News Thu, 10 Sep 2009 05:26:44 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: samyaza http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2006/02/more_aerox.html#comment-2713 samyaza Wed, 01 Mar 2006 01:02:44 +0000 http://s18881.gridserver.com/archives/754#comment-2713 Nice Conceptcar, one more reason for me to love Saab. But: Why did they build an Conceptcar with a roof-opening mechanism like the Volkswagen-based "Nova" back in the early 80s? This mix between Saab and a Volkswagen-Kitcar is not the best taste in my opinion. Nice Conceptcar, one more reason for me to love Saab. But: Why did they build an Conceptcar with a roof-opening mechanism like the Volkswagen-based “Nova” back in the early 80s? This mix between Saab and a Volkswagen-Kitcar is not the best taste in my opinion.

]]> By: Peter Haubold http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2006/02/more_aerox.html#comment-2712 Peter Haubold Fri, 24 Feb 2006 06:13:59 +0000 http://s18881.gridserver.com/archives/754#comment-2712 Wow, what a SAAB, it`s not a Sonett, it`s a "Hotnett". I like the new front Design. I think the lights looking better when they`re not integrated in the radiator grille (see new 9-5) Wow, what a SAAB, it`s not a Sonett, it`s a “Hotnett”. I like the new front Design. I think the lights looking better when they`re not integrated in the radiator grille (see new 9-5)

]]> By: Brian http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2006/02/more_aerox.html#comment-2711 Brian Thu, 23 Feb 2006 15:52:03 +0000 http://s18881.gridserver.com/archives/754#comment-2711 I'm impressed with the vehicle. I like the overall look and would love to see the car produced. Eliminate the radical door design and offer in two forms (coupe and roadster) at a price point in the mid 40's USD and they'll sell every last one. It doesn't need the utility of a Sport-Combi or the practicality of a sedan, it needs to be striking in looks with gobs of horsepower and AWD. I can't say enough. I like it; I can't wait to see it in New York. Cheers. I’m impressed with the vehicle. I like the overall look and would love to see the car produced. Eliminate the radical door design and offer in two forms (coupe and roadster) at a price point in the mid 40’s USD and they’ll sell every last one. It doesn’t need the utility of a Sport-Combi or the practicality of a sedan, it needs to be striking in looks with gobs of horsepower and AWD.
I can’t say enough. I like it; I can’t wait to see it in New York.

Cheers.

]]> By: MuzX http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2006/02/more_aerox.html#comment-2710 MuzX Thu, 23 Feb 2006 14:41:02 +0000 http://s18881.gridserver.com/archives/754#comment-2710 Impractical? What? Any 2 seats 400 HP sport car is completely impractical, especially in the main target country, where the speed limit is 75 miles/hour :))) Impractical? What?
Any 2 seats 400 HP sport car is completely impractical, especially in the main target country, where the speed limit is 75 miles/hour :) ))

]]> By: 1985 Gripen http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2006/02/more_aerox.html#comment-2709 1985 Gripen Thu, 23 Feb 2006 12:27:33 +0000 http://s18881.gridserver.com/archives/754#comment-2709 I agree, Dinger. Add to the silly, impracticality of it that it isn't very original either. There was a Bertone concept at LAST YEAR'S show that had the same type of cockpit opening. Let's just hope that the "incomplete" pictures were an early artist's rendering before they later decided to nix the gimmicky canopy design. I agree, Dinger. Add to the silly, impracticality of it that it isn’t very original either.

There was a Bertone concept at LAST YEAR’S show that had the same type of cockpit opening.

Let’s just hope that the “incomplete” pictures were an early artist’s rendering before they later decided to nix the gimmicky canopy design.

]]> By: john http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2006/02/more_aerox.html#comment-2708 john Thu, 23 Feb 2006 11:21:11 +0000 http://s18881.gridserver.com/archives/754#comment-2708 Posted by: Bill Bartman | February 22, 2006 03:04 PM: "About four years ago a 2006 SAAB prototype powered by a small displacement, SAAB-developed V-6 was shown to my contact and he was allowed to drive the vehicle. Among its exciting innovations were massive power despite the small engine size and “true” four-wheel steering. The lucky tester described the prototype as a dream drive. Never heard anything more about that prototype, but I fully suspect GM shelved it at best and killed it at worst." - Bill, you might be thinking of the Saab Variable Compression engine, a 5-cyl in-line 1.6 litre unit capable of 225bhp and 305Nm torque. See: http://www.saab.co.uk/main/GLOBAL/en/vepsilon/ Posted by: napahlm | February 22, 2006 06:39 PM give us a E85 V4 please! V4 engines are rather agricultural and not a smooth as car buyers demand today. The V4 engine used in the Saab 95 was also used in the Ford Transit. It might be fine for vans, but not cars which demand more comfort. I think you need to be looking at a V6 for a smoother engine. Posted by: Bill Bartman | February 22, 2006 03:04 PM: “About four years ago a 2006 SAAB prototype powered by a small displacement, SAAB-developed V-6 was shown to my contact and he was allowed to drive the vehicle. Among its exciting innovations were massive power despite the small engine size and “true” four-wheel steering. The lucky tester described the prototype as a dream drive. Never heard anything more about that prototype, but I fully suspect GM shelved it at best and killed it at worst.”

- Bill, you might be thinking of the Saab Variable Compression engine, a 5-cyl in-line 1.6 litre unit capable of 225bhp and 305Nm torque.

See: http://www.saab.co.uk/main/GLOBAL/en/vepsilon/

Posted by: napahlm | February 22, 2006 06:39 PM

give us a E85 V4 please!

V4 engines are rather agricultural and not a smooth as car buyers demand today. The V4 engine used in the Saab 95 was also used in the Ford Transit. It might be fine for vans, but not cars which demand more comfort. I think you need to be looking at a V6 for a smoother engine.

]]> By: Dinger http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2006/02/more_aerox.html#comment-2707 Dinger Thu, 23 Feb 2006 09:52:32 +0000 http://s18881.gridserver.com/archives/754#comment-2707 The roof opening reminds me of the Buick Wildcat concept car from the mid 80's. Completely impractical, silly really. I mean, who wants it to rain IN their car when opening the door? I know it's just a playful design thing but whats the point of spending time and resources to design something that will never, ever see the light of day? The roof opening reminds me of the Buick Wildcat concept car from the mid 80’s. Completely impractical, silly really. I mean, who wants it to rain IN their car when opening the door? I know it’s just a playful design thing but whats the point of spending time and resources to design something that will never, ever see the light of day?

]]> By: MuzX http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2006/02/more_aerox.html#comment-2706 MuzX Thu, 23 Feb 2006 02:10:59 +0000 http://s18881.gridserver.com/archives/754#comment-2706 Napahlm, I agree that for a "normal" transportation a good 4-cylinder ethanol turbo engine is just good enough to power a Saab (however, I still haven't tried the new V6 2.8 turbo). :) But the V6 have some undisputable advantages, for istance the more balanced running which is a must have feature in its classe. The 4-cylinder Saab engines could reach this only with the balancing shafts and it makes the engine more complicated and heavy. The Aero-X is definitely a sport car, and as I mentioned before it's certainly targeting mostly the US market. Everybody knows that the "small" 4 cylinder engines has no respect in the US, even the Saab engines can provide the same power and torque as some more lazy, thirsty, bulky american big ones. Even the Aero-X has a V6 and 3.0 litres - it use ethanol which is much more enviroment friendly than gasoline. I think it's an great step forward - a sport car with Biopower engine.(Unfortunately in our country the etanol is not available at the petrol stations) :( Napahlm,
I agree that for a “normal” transportation a good 4-cylinder ethanol turbo engine is just good enough to power a Saab (however, I still haven’t tried the new V6 2.8 turbo). :)
But the V6 have some undisputable advantages, for istance the more balanced running which is a must have feature in its classe. The 4-cylinder Saab engines could reach this only with the balancing shafts and it makes the engine more complicated and heavy.
The Aero-X is definitely a sport car, and as I mentioned before it’s certainly targeting mostly the US market. Everybody knows that the “small” 4 cylinder engines has no respect in the US, even the Saab engines can provide the same power and torque as some more lazy, thirsty, bulky american big ones.
Even the Aero-X has a V6 and 3.0 litres – it use ethanol which is much more enviroment friendly than gasoline. I think it’s an great step forward – a sport car with Biopower engine.(Unfortunately in our country the etanol is not available at the petrol stations) :(

]]> By: Arktos http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2006/02/more_aerox.html#comment-2705 Arktos Thu, 23 Feb 2006 02:10:43 +0000 http://s18881.gridserver.com/archives/754#comment-2705 I'm very happy to be able to say "told you so". (In the discussions about the old pic I said, in a true Swedish way, "But we need to see the car from a different angle and with less reflections - it might be less busy than we think.") :D Now it's not a question about "Why so much Corvette?", but rather "Why so much Aston Martin?". But that is still a GREAT leap forwards. If you must borrow, do it from the best... I’m very happy to be able to say “told you so”.
(In the discussions about the old pic I said, in a true Swedish way, “But we need to see the car from a different angle and with less reflections – it might be less busy than we think.”) :D

Now it’s not a question about “Why so much Corvette?”, but rather “Why so much Aston Martin?”. But that is still a GREAT leap forwards. If you must borrow, do it from the best…

]]> By: MuzX http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2006/02/more_aerox.html#comment-2704 MuzX Thu, 23 Feb 2006 01:52:40 +0000 http://s18881.gridserver.com/archives/754#comment-2704 The opening of the door (roof?) certainly motor driven. It should not sacrifice the passive safety, the A-pillars could be as strong as possible because the weight doesn't matter. I also feel it still too American, even it's much better than on the first picture. I also agree those opinions that it would be better to reduce the GM influence and let Trollhattan engineers and designers work on their own way. Maybe an another investor who respected more the traditions of Saab would be a better owner of the company. I have a crazy idea: let's join the worlds Saab fans and Saab clubs - and buy as much Saab shares as possible (can we buy? is it available on the stock market?)and try to save the Saab together! Am I to naive? :)))) The opening of the door (roof?) certainly motor driven. It should not sacrifice the passive safety, the A-pillars could be as strong as possible because the weight doesn’t matter.
I also feel it still too American, even it’s much better than on the first picture.
I also agree those opinions that it would be better to reduce the GM influence and let Trollhattan engineers and designers work on their own way.
Maybe an another investor who respected more the traditions of Saab would be a better owner of the company.

I have a crazy idea: let’s join the worlds Saab fans and Saab clubs – and buy as much Saab shares as possible (can we buy? is it available on the stock market?)and try to save the Saab together!
Am I to naive? :) )))

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