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		<title>By: Ben K</title>
		<link>http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2005/10/how_to_pi_off_a.html#comment-1320</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2005 17:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Further to my tracked-back comments on my blog:

Shannon&#039;s might insure a written off car, especially if you show them the before pics. As I&#039;m sure you know, Swade, writing a car off is about money, not about damage. Perhaps the insurer wrote the car off because it was a &quot;weird&quot; European car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Further to my tracked-back comments on my blog:</p>
<p>Shannon&#8217;s might insure a written off car, especially if you show them the before pics. As I&#8217;m sure you know, Swade, writing a car off is about money, not about damage. Perhaps the insurer wrote the car off because it was a &#8220;weird&#8221; European car.</p>
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		<title>By: Swade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2005 16:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t pick up on the 3D meaning 3-door and I don&#039;t think it&#039;s possible.  As far as I know the Griffin was a 9000 only model and there weren&#039;t any 3-door 9000&#039;s that I know of.  I&#039;m more than happy to be corrected with a photo though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t pick up on the 3D meaning 3-door and I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s possible.  As far as I know the Griffin was a 9000 only model and there weren&#8217;t any 3-door 9000&#8217;s that I know of.  I&#8217;m more than happy to be corrected with a photo though.</p>
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		<title>By: PT</title>
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		<dc:creator>PT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2005 16:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fonze, 

Saabs are not your average mainstream car and an LPG 3 door griffin is not your average SAAB! A niche within a niche? 
As swade points out, it should have every option possible at that time. How does it drive?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fonze, </p>
<p>Saabs are not your average mainstream car and an LPG 3 door griffin is not your average SAAB! A niche within a niche?<br />
As swade points out, it should have every option possible at that time. How does it drive?</p>
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		<title>By: Swade</title>
		<link>http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2005/10/how_to_pi_off_a.html#comment-1317</link>
		<dc:creator>Swade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2005 16:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saaboy, big kudos to you for following your father&#039;s wisdom and esp for converting one of &#039;the enemy&#039;!!  Like you say, 1 down but plenty to go....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saaboy, big kudos to you for following your father&#8217;s wisdom and esp for converting one of &#8216;the enemy&#8217;!!  Like you say, 1 down but plenty to go&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Swade</title>
		<link>http://www.trollhattansaab.net/archives/2005/10/how_to_pi_off_a.html#comment-1316</link>
		<dc:creator>Swade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2005 16:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fonze, the Griffin was the &quot;all the bells and whistles&quot; model and should be fully loaded.  I&#039;ve only ever seen 1 or 2 down here and both had very high mileage.

Greg, the guy emailed me last night and sent me the &#039;before&#039; photos.  They didn&#039;t look all that bad, to be honest.  He&#039;s become negotiable again all of a sudden too.  If the car checks out for repairs and he&#039;ll take $19K or thereabouts then I&#039;d maybe be interested again, providing I can insure it.  That&#039;s another thing all together.  A lot of insurance companies here in Oz won&#039;t touch a vehicle that&#039;s been put on the writeoff register.

The saga continues.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fonze, the Griffin was the &#8220;all the bells and whistles&#8221; model and should be fully loaded.  I&#8217;ve only ever seen 1 or 2 down here and both had very high mileage.</p>
<p>Greg, the guy emailed me last night and sent me the &#8216;before&#8217; photos.  They didn&#8217;t look all that bad, to be honest.  He&#8217;s become negotiable again all of a sudden too.  If the car checks out for repairs and he&#8217;ll take $19K or thereabouts then I&#8217;d maybe be interested again, providing I can insure it.  That&#8217;s another thing all together.  A lot of insurance companies here in Oz won&#8217;t touch a vehicle that&#8217;s been put on the writeoff register.</p>
<p>The saga continues&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: SAABoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>SAABoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2005 10:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys, I&#039;m new here. Swade, I love the site. I&#039;ve been watching and reading your posts for a couple of months now, but never managed to make an ID and comment. 

I&#039;m a youngen, with a hand-me-down 1986 900s 16v (NO TURBO, bummer) at least it&#039;s stick. Even at this age, I love Saabs. My fathers been a saab enthusiast most of his life, with his 99s and what not. Haha, i guess im following in his footsteps. Their is also a 1999 9-5 linear in the family. 

I&#039;m sorry about your 0.1% occurance. That really is a bummer. I know this may not help you feel any better, but a friend of mine actually just purchused a Viggen. His previous vehicle was a late 1998 (i think) 318 [C]i . I bugged the lad so much about a Saab as his next vehicle, he finally took out our 9-5 for a drive. 

He enjoyed the car quite a bit, especially considering he was a BMW guy. He was quite schocked when I told him he was driving only the 170hp version of the car. And before we knew it, he found himself a 2001 9-3 Viggen. It&#039;s black. Surprisingly, coming from a BMW, he told me he noticed almost no torque-steer at all on the Viggen. 

1 down... who-knows-how-many to go. Do I get any extra points for influencing a BMW -&gt; SAAB conversion?

I already asking my friend to sell the car to me...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys, I&#8217;m new here. Swade, I love the site. I&#8217;ve been watching and reading your posts for a couple of months now, but never managed to make an ID and comment. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m a youngen, with a hand-me-down 1986 900s 16v (NO TURBO, bummer) at least it&#8217;s stick. Even at this age, I love Saabs. My fathers been a saab enthusiast most of his life, with his 99s and what not. Haha, i guess im following in his footsteps. Their is also a 1999 9-5 linear in the family. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry about your 0.1% occurance. That really is a bummer. I know this may not help you feel any better, but a friend of mine actually just purchused a Viggen. His previous vehicle was a late 1998 (i think) 318 [C]i . I bugged the lad so much about a Saab as his next vehicle, he finally took out our 9-5 for a drive. </p>
<p>He enjoyed the car quite a bit, especially considering he was a BMW guy. He was quite schocked when I told him he was driving only the 170hp version of the car. And before we knew it, he found himself a 2001 9-3 Viggen. It&#8217;s black. Surprisingly, coming from a BMW, he told me he noticed almost no torque-steer at all on the Viggen. </p>
<p>1 down&#8230; who-knows-how-many to go. Do I get any extra points for influencing a BMW -> SAAB conversion?</p>
<p>I already asking my friend to sell the car to me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Abbott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Abbott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2005 07:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bought a 1988 9000 turbo with a salvage title, and drove it for the next 11 years -- put 130,000 miles on it.  

The difference, of course, that the salvage title was disclosed up front, and the price reflected that.  I paid $8700 for the car -- an awfully low price for a five-year old car with 34k miles.    

I would not be afraid of a salvage title resulting from a front end accident.  Especially as you have had the car inspected.  If it tracks straight, has no frame damage, etc., all that has happened is that someone repaired it themselves without paying standard labor rates -- and they&#039;re hoping to recoup the cost of their labor in the sale price.  

But I wouldn&#039;t pay more than about 2/3rd of the &quot;non-salvage&quot; market value for that model of car.  If the price were 16-17k, would you still be interested?  I&#039;d bet he won&#039;t sell at that price, because he&#039;s still looking for a buyer who will ignorantly pay full price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought a 1988 9000 turbo with a salvage title, and drove it for the next 11 years &#8212; put 130,000 miles on it.  </p>
<p>The difference, of course, that the salvage title was disclosed up front, and the price reflected that.  I paid $8700 for the car &#8212; an awfully low price for a five-year old car with 34k miles.    </p>
<p>I would not be afraid of a salvage title resulting from a front end accident.  Especially as you have had the car inspected.  If it tracks straight, has no frame damage, etc., all that has happened is that someone repaired it themselves without paying standard labor rates &#8212; and they&#8217;re hoping to recoup the cost of their labor in the sale price.  </p>
<p>But I wouldn&#8217;t pay more than about 2/3rd of the &#8220;non-salvage&#8221; market value for that model of car.  If the price were 16-17k, would you still be interested?  I&#8217;d bet he won&#8217;t sell at that price, because he&#8217;s still looking for a buyer who will ignorantly pay full price.</p>
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		<title>By: Fonze</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fonze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2005 05:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

That&#039;s quite a bummer I guess. But at least you have a great story to tell on birthdays!
At the moment I&#039;m thinking of buying a Saab Classic 900S GRIFFIN 3D. It&#039;s got LowPressureTurbo and it runs on LPG (propane??). It&#039;s got some good milage though, 425.000 kilometers (I&#039;m from Europe, sorry). Anyone knows something about the type?

Thanx,
BR,
Fonze</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s quite a bummer I guess. But at least you have a great story to tell on birthdays!<br />
At the moment I&#8217;m thinking of buying a Saab Classic 900S GRIFFIN 3D. It&#8217;s got LowPressureTurbo and it runs on LPG (propane??). It&#8217;s got some good milage though, 425.000 kilometers (I&#8217;m from Europe, sorry). Anyone knows something about the type?</p>
<p>Thanx,<br />
BR,<br />
Fonze</p>
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		<title>By: PT</title>
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		<dc:creator>PT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2005 04:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can just imagine the seller as you take it for a test drive.....

&quot; nah mate thats not pulling to the left, thats just the torque-steer, all these viggens do that.&quot;  :p  

The other problem of course, is that its blue, not black or silver....but i digress...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can just imagine the seller as you take it for a test drive&#8230;..</p>
<p>&#8221; nah mate thats not pulling to the left, thats just the torque-steer, all these viggens do that.&#8221;  :p  </p>
<p>The other problem of course, is that its blue, not black or silver&#8230;.but i digress&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ben's Car Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben's Car Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2005 01:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Always get your next car purchase checked out&lt;/strong&gt;

Swade from Trollhattan Saab is possibly the most passionate Saab dude out there.

He was about to buy a 1999 Viggen (that&#8217;s a crazy-powerful Saab in case you didn&#8217;t know) and got a Dept of Transport check done on it, to see if there were an...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Always get your next car purchase checked out</strong></p>
<p>Swade from Trollhattan Saab is possibly the most passionate Saab dude out there.</p>
<p>He was about to buy a 1999 Viggen (that&#8217;s a crazy-powerful Saab in case you didn&#8217;t know) and got a Dept of Transport check done on it, to see if there were an&#8230;</p>
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